Divine Revelation or God Told Me…..

I spent twelve years living in Greece and while I encountered many cultural differences that made life interesting one thing that NEVER happened to me was someone telling me “God told me” or “God told me to tell you”.

Divine revelation is a beautiful thing isn’t it?

I’m of the belief that God can do whatever He likes so I usually listen without trying to laugh because you never know, right?

My usual audible response to the “God told me to tell you” is to ask them “why doesn’t He just tell me himself rather than tell you”?

It’s reasonable, right?

Their response is always the same; “It’s because you aren’t listening”.

Hmmmmm. Now that is like a punch in the gut isn’t it?

So, it’s all about testing time for me (1John 4:1). As the text says plainly not all spirits are actually from God no matter what people think or say.

I had one guy always telling me “God told me” and how he “knew” things about, for example, my time in Greece that he couldn’t possibly know because “God told him”.

He never got around to actually telling me so not only did this fella have “divine revelation” but he and God were actually gossiping about me?

His “god” sounds more like Allah than the God of the Bible.

So one day I’m talking with this fella about the Cleveland Cavaliers guard Dion Waiters and I speculated he might be suffering from appendicitis. He immediately informed me that he “knew that” because “the Lord told me”.

Turns out Waiters was suffering from food poisoning. So either “god didn’t know” or “god lied”. No matter which is of no matter to me because nothing is hidden from the God of the Bible (Hebrews 4:16).

Whether these folks think they are speaking for God or not the moment they claim they received their instructions directly from God Himself, and the instruction, revelation or secret or whatever they’ve conjured up in their mind turns out false they become false prophets.

 Jeremiah 23:16

This is what the LORD Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.

And there you go. No diagnosis of their mental state necessary. No name calling or calling him out by name on a blog. Stop listening and keep it moving.

Pray too.

We didn’t talk about any of this on this weeks Calvin’s Corner. We did talk about “Deflate Gate”, “Sinners Prayers”, “Altar Calls” and whether either tradition is harmful or whatever. We also talked about the father of such traditions Charles Finney. I’ll leave the player below or you can download the program via the link underneath the player.

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Jesus was mistaken yet still is God?

Sometimes I don’t know what to think about the Contemporary Christian Music (CCM) industry. I don’t want to paint the entire industry with a broad brush but lately it’s been difficult for me not to think that a good portion of the industry hasn’t the foggiest idea what the Good Book actually says.

Case in point; there is a “worship band” named Gungor with a lead singer named Michael Gunger who’s floating around the idea that Jesus may have been wrong about Adam and Noah.  Specifically he said the following;

“And even if He was wrong, even if He did believe that Noah was a historical person, or Adam was a historical person, and ended up being wrong, I don’t understand how that even would deny the divinity of Christ. The whole idea of the divinity of Christ being fully human and fully God, that God lowered Himself to become a human being with a human brain, in a human culture with human language and human needs and human limitations,”

Jesus Christ, the God Man, the Son of God, one third of the Trinity, was wrong about Adam and Noah? Here’s one thing Mr. Gunger missed when or even if he’s ever even read the Good Book;

(John 1:1-3)  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jesus is eternally divine and to believe otherwise is a serious mistake to make. To even insinuate that somehow God made a mistake or got His facts wrong denies what the Good Book says about Him.

I can’t believe a Christian would even entertain such a thought let alone say something like this publicly but Gunger also believes in “theistic evolution” as opposed to biblical creation so this really shouldn’t surprise anyone.

The strange bit, at least for me, was claiming that Jesus somehow being wrong wouldn’t be denying his deity. The Good Book has something to say about this as well

(Isaiah 40:28)  Have you not known? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable.

(Psalms 18:30)  This God—his way is perfect; the word of the LORD proves true; he is a shield for all those who take refuge in him.

(Job 12:7-10)  “But ask the beasts, and they will teach you; the birds of the heavens, and they will tell you; or the bushes of the earth, and they will teach you; and the fish of the sea will declare to you. Who among all these does not know that the hand of the LORD has done this? In his hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind.

(Num 23:19)  God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?

The Numbers quotation sort of brings this thing home doesn’t it? I can see how standing alone one could run with this and get into trouble because it does say “God is not a man” but when you look a little deeper and add the following to it alongside the John 1:1 reference it all becomes crystal clear.

(Philippians 2:5-11)  Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

I probably just confused you didn’t I? I’ll try and tie this up real nice and put a bow on it for you.

The answer is real simple. Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever. He was with God in the beginning and is the creator of all things now and forever. To even insinuate that Jesus was mistaken about the very thing He created denies what the Good Book says about Him, the Father and the Spirit of God. Anyone teaching such a thing is teaching against the eternal divinity of Christ and that dear friend is blasphemy.

Furthermore; just because Jesus took the form of a man and became man for our sins doesn’t mean he stopped being God. It only means He was being obedient to the Father, even unto death. Denying that denies the entire plan of Salvation which is actually denying Christianity.

Geesh. Mr. Gunger is a mess and I hate to say it but he isn’t alone. The CCM is littered with misinformed people spouting off about things they should just stay silent about. Especially something as grievous an error as what Mr. Gunger has committed.

Finally, today is Wednesday and this is the day we remember Pastor Saeed Abedini by changing our Facebook profile picture to something like the one below. Abedini is the Pastor falsely imprisoned in Iran for being a Christian. If you are unable to do this please pray for him and his family.

 

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