Jim Bakker Supporter Ruins My Perfect Weekend!!

This past weekend was a real winner. The Miami Hurricanes beat Ohio State, the New York Jets destroyed Jacksonville and the New York Mets took two of three from the Atlanta Braves. It’s too bad an anonymous Jim Bakker supporter had to ruin what would have otherwise perfect weekend!

It doesn’t get any better than this my friends…..and it gave me something other than Paula White to write about this Monday.

Many of you expressed to me privately how inappropriate you felt this comment was and how you wished that I would just delete the darn thing; the concern being that this person is an embarrassment to Christianity and that a comment like that would give this atheist another reason to reject Christianity.

I don’t think either scenario is going to happen.

If anyone thinks that “razorbeck” is a Christian than they would be mistaken.

Anyone wanting to demonstrate that Christianity is false by pointing to this anonymous Jim Bakker supporter would be building a straw man. Even atheists like “Ron” have met real Christians and know what a real belief in Christ looks like…..and what it doesn’t look like.

I was accused in that same thread by another Bakker supporter of using the bible to “beat people over the head with it [the bible]”…..well what dear Bakker supporter do you call this comment?

It looked more like a Floyd Mayweather sucker punch than a Christian responding to an atheist on a Christian forum.

I guess it’s easier to throw a sucker punch than it is in dealing with the fact that their hero, the man they worship, may or may not be who and what they thought he was….

Let’s take a look at the Scripture the anonymous Jim Bakker supporter brought forth…..

Hebrews 6:4-8
For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they then fall away, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt. For land that has drunk the rain that often falls on it, and produces a crop useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God. But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed, and its end is to be burned.

Quoting this passage to “Ron” was simply a nice way of telling Ron that he was going to hell because he already had his chance….and threw it away.

This is from the Reformation Study Bible;

Hebrews 6:4–12 This sober warning has been variously interpreted. Some understand the author to refer to genuine Christians who lose their salvation, but such a reading conflicts with passages which teach that those whom God has truly saved will persevere in faith to the end (John 10:28, 29; Rom. 8:28–30; “Perseverance of the Saints” at Rom. 8:30). Others interpret the warning as an argument directed against a Judaizing heretical sect, followers of a heresy serious enough that embracing it would lead to the loss of all hope of salvation. Another interpretation holds that the author is describing the apostates of vv. 4–8 in terms of their profession and the blessings they appeared to share with genuine believers up to the moment of their apostasy. Although Jesus saves completely (7:25) and has made perfect forever (10:13) those who hear His word with faith, the author exhorts the readers to prove the faith they profess by their perseverance. Without faith, proximity to God in the fellowship of His covenant people is no blessing; rather, it subjects apostates to more severe judgment.

Whitlock, L. G., Sproul, R. C., Waltke, B. K., & Silva, M. (1995). Reformation study Bible, the : Bringing the light of the Reformation to Scripture : New King James Version. Includes index. (Heb 6:4). Nashville: T. Nelson.

The above is a short answer to what would be a very long exposition on these Scriptures and too verbose for a blog posting. Pastor Michael Newnham and I will be expounding on this passage of scripture in our upcoming series of podcasts on Calvinism.

I’m sorry to burst this bible thumpers theological bubble but the scriptural text provided by “razorbeck” in this instance doesn’t apply to “Ron” because he was most likely never saved in the first place (1John 2:19). True believers persevere until the very end and Jesus promises the true believer that He never loses what the Father gives Him (John 6:39).

Thanks for ruining what was otherwise a perfect weekend and giving me another opportunity to speak about the doctrine of Sovereign Grace!


One thought on “Jim Bakker Supporter Ruins My Perfect Weekend!!

  1. Phil,
    I just had time to read this article. In it you mentioned a Jim Bakker supporter of accusing you of hitting people over the head with the Bible. I was the person you mentioned and that is an example of how you have twisted what I wrote.

    I wrote exactly
    “I feel through what I’ve read in this blog that sometimes you are listening and looking at others with Bible in hand not to check what they say, but to hit them in the head with it. ”

    I was writing about what I experienced and “was feeling” while reading through the blog. I DID NOT ACCUSE YOU OF HITTING ANYONE OVER THE HEAD WITH THE BIBLE. Accusing and explaining a feeling are two different things and you chose to use what I wrote as evidence to what you were trying to prove. Words ‘do’ matter and I don’t like to be misinterpreted. My writing is important to me and writing about my feelings is to set the backgrouind so that a reader can experience the scene as I see it. i.e.Knowing the time and place that specific scripture was written so that the scripture can truly be interpreted.

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