New Podcast: The Phoenix Preacher Interview!

On this week’s What Color is the Sky in Their World podcast I’m joined by the Phoenix Preacher Pastor Michael Newnham. Topics of discussion include; Blogging, The ODM Community, Calvinism, Mexico and Jerry Lee Lewis…..

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Show Notes

My Ken Silva troll story can be read at the link below;

For more information about Mexico, please see the following links;

Charles Bowden on The War Next Door:

Links to many Bowden Interviews:

Videos of El Pastor…in his hand made asylum in Juarez:

Michael Newnham on Juarez, Mexico, and Immigration Issues:


10 thoughts on “New Podcast: The Phoenix Preacher Interview!

    • Hey Jim,

      Maybe you are correct and if you are than Romans 8:28 makes sense:

      And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.

      I say God took the anger of one man and used it for His glory and many others including myself are very grateful for that 🙂



    • Hi,

      The interviews are fun…..not sure who’s going to be next up but I am glad that you are enjoying them.

      On this weeks Phil Naessens Show I’m interviewing a blogger who covers the St. Louis Cardinals…..I think you might enjoy that one!


  1. Thoroughly enjoyed this interview Phil! Michael seems a reformed brother with heart and his experience with a cultish group strikes a chord with ours.

    Had to smile at his comments about Americans at the Calvin 500th in Geneva!! And glad he gave us Africans the thumbs up!!

    I loved Michael’s description of Calvinism as being far more than TULIP.

    I have a lot of Sinclair Ferguson (favourite is “A Heart for God”) and Jim Packer and John Stott on my shelf as well as Pink’s classic “Sovereignty of God”. Packer delivered the sermon at Stott’s recent memorial service. (

    I wonder if he puts DA Carson in the same fold?

    A question to Jim above. Is there not a distinction in scripture between righteous and unrighteous anger? (Be angry but do not sin – Eph 4:26)
    Didn’t Jesus get “mad” at the profaning of the temple? Wasn’t Paul mad at the Galatians calling them foolish and bewitched? Was Luther not “mad” at the Catholic church? Was Wilberforce not “mad” with the system of slavery? Should we not be “mad” like John Piper at the murder of babies?

    We at the Concerned Parents Group are “mad” with the cultish practices of a group that has ignored God’s high view of the family unit and torn apart our families. Even worse, they have also distorted the true gospel of scripture.

    We are “mad” with money driven “Christian” media who without discernment give publicity to wolves in sheep’s clothing.

    Is “zeal for God’s glory” not the real meaning of “mad”?

    Phil has been a great help to us in our mission to “Raise Awareness by Speaking the Truth in Love” about CTMI. In our three years of doing this I have lost count of the number of times we have had well meaning believers advising us to just “leave this whole thing to God” They love quoting Gamaliel (a Rabbi in the NT) who said about Christianity something like – “if this is not of God it will fail”.

    Sadly, that view led to the church watching in silence in the early stages of Mormonism, Jehovah’s witnesses and Moonies etc.

    Have Christians lost their backbone?

    Keep up the good work brother!

    • I think of the anger of one particular reformer, who took on the false sacraments, and Biblically obliterated them, and I can only conclude that his anger was righteous indignation that ultimately was to the Glory of God.

  2. Thanks again for having me, Phil!

    You did an excellent job and as I told you, that was the most fun I’ve ever had being interviewed.

    I’m looking forward to our next get together on Calvinism…my old adversary Jim will get chapped about that one too. 🙂

  3. Michael,

    Thanks and thanks for explaining where the “meow’s” were coming from! I honestly thought when I cracked open the back door of the hotel lobby that I may have let a cat in…..whew what a relief!

    I’ll write to you tomorrow and let you know what I’m thinking in regards to the Calvinism episode (s)…..and I’m looking forward to this as well!



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