Well, Mr. Begnaud has responded to my demand that he back up his allegations and accusations he leveled to his family “privately” then published for anyone with a modem and Internet access……I’ll address his response point by point;
Well, well , well Phil says I am a liar. He says PROVE it! He let’s me know that he could sue me, but he won’t! Phil says “You have until 11:00pm Wednesday! Guess Phil doesn’t care that I work for a living and I support a large family on one income, and it is in the middle of summer out here and as a Heating & Air Conditioning Contractor, I am kinda busy! But of course Phil is doing all of this because he feels sorry for me. Right? Must be that sorrow that caused you to brag directly to me after making that six thousand dollar bet on my failure. My, with friends like you, who needs enemies? And Phil calls Ingrid a “egotistical jackass”?
Ah, you have plenty of time to defame and slander when it suits you yet pout when called to bring facts to back up your accusations….and actually I do feel sorry for you……and I didn’t bet on your failure Robert…….I bet on that enormous ego of yours…….thanks again for proving me right……I’ve never called or referred to Ingrid Schlueter as a “jackass”……..have any quotes where I specifically said that about her or is this more of the same delusions I’ve come to expect from the pen and mouth of Robert Begnaud?
I hope you are listening Dorothy and Roderick and everyone of Phil Naessens defenders. Dorothy asked the question, “when did Phil speak against small home churches” Well Dorothy all the time if you are just listening, here are some examples.
Dorothy wasn’t defending me Robert…..she asked you to back up your allegations you’ve made about me……and what does Roderick have to do with this?
Phil constantly, almost in every audio, refers to “them” the ODMS, the Bloggers, he has made it very clear that I am one of the “thems” he is talking about. The internet is the only way that small home churches can communicate their message to others, Phil has clearly expressed his hate and contempt for the internet, he does not like the fact that people such as myself can have a forum and not be shut out by the “Local Nicolaitan Church system”. On the audio “Devouring the Sheep” I quote, when he is talking about the “them guys”, people like me, he says “they appear to be bigger than what they are” . Phil’s answer to this? I quote, “Your main feeding should come from a local Church” also he states in so many words, ODMs should be run by an “Ordained Elder”. Ordained by who Phil? You?, The Mormons? A Word Faith Pastor? Tell me Phil, who ordained Steve Lumbley? I have heard other ministries criticize him for this very reason. Since I have not the approval of men, then, according to you my home church is invalid!
I don’t consider you an ODM or a blogger Robert…….you’re just a guy with a website………I express my “hate” towards folks that use the Internet to lie and defame Robert………I specifically address anonymous bloggers because they have zero accountability Robert……..
Robert…….I was referring to folks on the Internet claiming to be CEO’s and Presidents of ministries but when you do a little bit of research you find out its just him/her and no one else……I’ve never lumped you in with that and in fact I’d never heard of you until AFTER that show was made public…….and I would never consider you as an ODM…..
Your main feeding should come from a local church…..either home church or whatever and NOT from the Internet…….ODM’s should be run by an “ordained elder” is again a misrepresentation of what I said……something I’m getting quite tired of with you.
I don’t ordain anyone Robert……and the rest has absolutely nothing to do with the lies you’ve told about me……but I do find it interesting how you bring Steve Lumbley up all the time…..are you jealous of him too?
According to you (Devouring the Sheep – audio) “the majority who have blogs, (that would be the “them people”, people like me) can’t teach a Sunday School class to five year olds” then later on you say “follow your Pastor”. Of course, I can’t be a Pastor in my home, I don’t have a degree or any desire to learn Greek. Right Phil? I need your approval or someone like you. For your information there are small home churches all over the world that are led by a prayer and simple child like faith, by men who care about the souls of their family and their community. They don’t need your approval Phil, they need God’s approval.
You don’t have a blog now do you…….and as I said before that audio has noting to do with you as I hadn’t heard of you until AFTER the audio was made public…….and no I wouldn’t allow you to teach in any of the FIVE home churches I’ve planted in the last 7 years…..not because you don’t know Greek but because you don’t know what you are talking about…….biblical or otherwise as it concerns Christianity………
In “Unethical Christian Blogs” – audio you said “we should rely on our Pastors”, you said “Theology is a bridge” you want to get people to a “good church” run by “ordained Pastors”, home churches do not have this, they meet in their front living room and open the Bible and ask to be led to God’s truth. In the audio “Todd Bently is Back” you claim “the only thing I like about Ken Silva is that he is an ordained Baptist pastor” then you criticize him in two ways 1) “he only teaches a Bible Study” 2) “how can you go from a congregation of 100 to 5 or 6 people in your Bible study”. DID YOU HEAR THAT Dorothy? He sure isn’t sounding like having 5 or 6 people in your bible study is a good thing, is he? In your audio – “Cleaning up the mess” you are back at this “nursing a church hurt” and this time you point to a troubled young lady would gets caught in a internet lie to garner the sympathy of others. I guess in your perverted judgment, you lump me in with her, guess that is why the title is back. Only problem is, I don’t lie! I tell the truth! And then you use the very same base argument, when you claim in this audio that you are approved of God because of your contributors. Here we have it, the argument of size and numbers, involving the approval of men comes up in different ways, let’s just go over it specifically once again:
I said Theology Today was a bridge in reference to the issue of Full Preterism and I was thanking my contributors for helping me with that series…….and yes Robert I want to see people in good churches…..with “pastors” that teach sound Christian doctrine……..ordained or otherwise………and I use the word “ordained” out of respect for the laws in Greece……here you have to be approved by the GOC in order to have a home church or whatever……..
Actually I don’t “lump” you in with that girl dude………do you really believe everything is about you Robert? That young lady needs some guidance where you need lots more my friend………and you have lied about me repeatedly on your family bible study from July 5th Robert………and I’ll be playing that for the people believe me…….
The church that Ken Silva was assigned to was a church plant of a 100……..it dwindled down to 13 when Ken came and now it’s at between 6-8 people……he claimed God was weeding out the tares while he “preached”……..and I was complimenting Ken on getting ordained by the SBC………tough requirements……something you couldn’t pass at gunpoint……..why are you bringing Silva up when Dorothy’s questions have nothing to do with Ken?
1) Devouring the Sheep – “they appear to be bigger than they are”
2) Devouring the Sheep – “your main feeding should come from a local church” (not a home church- my words)
3) Todd Bently is back – “how can you go from a congregation of 100 to 5 or 6 in your Bible study.
4) Todd Bently is back – “Ken Silva only teaches a Bible Study”
5) Cleaning up the mess – “the proof that God approves of us is because our contributors”
1) NOT referring to you as I didn’t even know you were alive
2) NEVER said a local church couldn’t be a “home church”
3) Referring to Ken Silva and I have NEVER put down his bible study
4) That’s the truth Robert…..
Mr. Beganaud All of the above arguments that Phil uses, surrounds the approval of men. The Bible I read says “Woe unto you when men shall speak highly of you!” I guess I can’t understand it because I don’t know Greek, right Phil? All of the above referenced audios can be found at Theology Today. Just cannot wait for you to admit that you are wrong Phil and apologize to me for calling me a liar! Why am I hearing crickets right now?
Crickets eh? That was me snoring dude as I was asleep……..Dorothy asked you the following questions;
1) When has Phil ever criticized a small family Church because they are small?
2) When has Phil criticized a small family in a house?
3) Where has Phil stated that Mr. Begnaud is “not legitimate” because he’s small?
4) Where has Phil stated that Mr. Begnaud is “ridiculous” because he’s small?
Why haven’t you answered them Robert? You confidently proclaim these accusations and more on the audio……the majority of your “evidence” comes from audios that were published PRIOR to my ever knowing who you were…..
You better be careful my friend…….you slandered me to your family which ain’t cool with me……….and now the above is the best you can come up with…….not to cool Robert.
Below are the emails with dates to compare with the dates on the audios Mr. Begnaud believes I was referring to him…..