Are The Muslims Taking Over The World? by Dorothy Anderson

Here are some fallacies I see in this review.

1 – To make this work, it must equate Christianity to physical birth and not conversions.  Christianity is still well above Islam in conversions.  AND Christian population is at 31% world wide and Islam is only 20%.

2 – While Islam is growing in some areas, it is found that 2nd generation Muslims that immigrate become less devout – not more – as they absorb into the culture.

3 – Also those who become apostate Muslims do not report because they are to be killed.  They usually chose silence.

4 – Also in Muslim countries, religion is governed by civil law.

Any thoughts here?

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22 thoughts on “Are The Muslims Taking Over The World? by Dorothy Anderson

  1. Hi Dorothy,

    Is Christian population really 31% worldwide? That’s news to me. Of course, if you take the aggregate number of so-called conversions made by the popular “crusades” (like Billy Garaham’s), and large mega-churches, you might come close to that. However, what the sources generally don’t tell you is that the backsliding rate of such conversions is nearly 90%.

    I would imagine the statistics are closer to 15%.. maybe less. Islam can reasonably claim a large number of converts because spiritual re-birth is not needed to become a Muslim. Mental assent is sufficient. If we judge Christianity by the same standard, I suppose the statistics may amount to 30%. But the percentage still seems somewhat inflated.

    Peace & Health,

    Brian

    • Hi Brian,

      I checked the most recent statistics and they report Christianity at 33%, so I may have understated it. While I agree that many of these are probably not regenerated, they have still chosen to identify with Christianity.

      btw – I read that Graham’s crusades report only 5% are attending Churches 5 years after they made their profession of faith.

      Regardless of that, the same must be said of Islam. If freedom of religion were practiced, I highly doubt that 20% would identify with Islam. Conversion is a big problem for them. It usually occurs when women marry into the faith much like the RCC.

      The issue isn’t so much about which religion has the most adherants as it is about whether the Muslim demographics is an accurate way to measure. This whole presentation is on “physical birth” statistics within a religous structure of a particular “physical country”. I see this as a propaganda film. If you say it on TV, then it must be true type of scenario. Civil governments can legislate religion but that doesn’t mean every single person agrees. You’re a history buff. When has Christianity had it’s largest growth experiences? In times of ease or when under oppression?

    • What I see when looking at that pie chart is that 79% of the world is not Islam and I even question the 21% Islam report. Can this battle be just with Christianity, or must it be against all religions and belief systems that don’t adhere to Islam? It has to be ALL.

  2. Hi Guys,

    Islam can easily claim to be largest growing Religion (the larger chunk of converts coming from the West). At 21% now, it would surpass Christianity in the next 12-15 years impressively.

    Anyhow, Islam has the highest number of people, who Practice the Religion in the World (way ahead of all).

    Regards.

    • Hi navedz,

      It’s one thing to claim it’s the fastest growing religion, but the numbers I have don’t support that. In the last 10 years, the numbers are beginning to reflect a decline or a leveling off, but not an increase.

  3. Muslims all over the world lie that islam is the fastest growing religion. I don’t know why they all choose to lie.
    I come from a country where there used to be more muslims. But now, we have more christians. Even all my muslims friends when i was are kid are now christians and hardly can i point out any of my christian friends who converted to islam.
    So, the question is where do the muslims come about notion that islam is growing? The answer is simple, look around yourself and cast back to your friends of ten years and see which one that converted to islam from christianity, you probably won’t see any. But when you check the other way, you can tell the difference.

    • It’s definitely true that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, and this is not coming from just Muslims alone. Statistics, evidence and facts all prove that more people convert to Islam then any other religion, there is no way anyone can say that this is all made up because I can guarantee that not all of the researchers were Muslim.

      Maybe the culture from where you come is different but here I see very many devoted Muslims, I have never met even one person who has converted from Islam to Christianity but I have seen the opposite. You have to take into account the whole world not just where you are living.

  4. you havn,t no idia about islam u was born cristian are u try one day searsh if your region is trou or not? dont say any thing about islam if u dont know any thing about it so i advise u logic advice know about islam from islam book or muslim peable to know body say laying words about islam

    • Hi Amer,

      I wasn’t born a Christian. I was born a sinner saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. You are probably correct I have no idea about Islam and your statement that I was born a Christian tells me you have no idea about Christianity either. Guess we are in the same boat huh?

      Phil

  5. hi phil
    i read u comment its very good realy i was born muslim but i saerch in other Religions and proof to my silf the islam is trou u know something the muslims blieve by jesus he is not jod he is amassenger and prophit of the realy god up the sky we believe by realy cristian but its not found now some body change your books so its have alot of rongs so the god made other prophit (mohamed) to say the god woords (quran)

  6. Hi Amer,

    How are you today?

    You say here Jesus wasn’t God but a messenger and prophet. Do you believe the following Scripture is wrong?

    John 1:1-5

    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men.
    The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

    The above says that Jesus was more then a prophet. It says He was God.

    You then stated god made Mohamed a prophet. What about this Scripture?

    Hebrews 1:1-2

    In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.

    The above says Jesus was the last prophet He will speak through. Do you believe that both of the Scriptures presented are wrong and if so how did you come to this conclusion?

    You mention the Qo’ran. What makes that book different from say the Book of Mormon? Their both extra revelation from prophets who came long after Christ and the bible. Should we accept them both along with the bible or should we discard one or both (The Bible and Book of Mormon)?

    Phil

    • Brother Phil

      Can you please let know us the version of the bible which you are referring to… you are right that bible is the word of God… but which version is that one???? The original does not exist anymore.. and the ones available.. there are sooooo many versions… Bible had been tampered with again and again and it does not exist anymore in the original form either in memory or text anywhere on the earth, nor has it existed as such for at least 1,500 or more years. Infact none of the religious scripture exist in its original form… they have been revised by human mind (read historians, priests etc) for their own judgement, understanding, human desires and whims.

      The Quran on the other hand, is exactly preserved and memorized as it was during the lifetime of the holy prophet, peace be upon him. The teachings of Islam from the Quran and the hadeeth of Muhammad, peace be upon him, are very clear and available in the original texts in Arabic for whomsoever would like to read them. Allah has said that he would preserve His deen till eternity.

      As Prophet Jesus (pbuh) said… ‘Search ye the truth, and the truth shall free you.’ We have the Old Testament, we have the New Testament – Now you should follow the Last and Final Testament, which is the Glorious Quran.

      Naved

    • Hi Navadz,

      Thanks for your comments and questions.

      Yes, the Word of God has been translated into many languages. Didn’t God invent languages (Genesis 11) and didn’t he attribute other languages to the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost which we celebrate today (Acts 2)? Are you saying God can’t control what He invents?

      Hasn’t the Quran been translated into other languages as well? Doesn’t this go against Muhammad’s will? If Arabic was so important why the need for translation into dozens of languages?

      Isn’t the following a loophole the Quran has whenever people question it?

      Surah 2:106

      “None of our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar–Knowest thou not that Allah hath power over all things?”

      The bible doesn’t have such a loophole and in fact states about itself;


       2 Timothy 3:16

      All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

      Thanks,

      Phil

    • Brother Phil

      I am not talking about translation… translation is done for ease of understanding for human. When I say that the original bible (as in word of God) does not exist anymore.. i point to the alteration of the word of God by human beings. With time… the Bible has been altered umphteenth time… to absorb the whims and desires of human being as per THEIR understanding.

      The verse of Quran that you quoted, in simple sense it means that Allah’s Message from age to age is always the same, but that its form may differ according to the needs and exigencies of the time. That form was different as given to Moses (pbuh) and then to Jesus (pbuh) and then to Muhammad (pbuh)… the deen of Islam was complete with Muhammad (pbuh).

      The Muslims believe in all the prophets that came before Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and that prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the last prophet of Allah. We therefore belive in Torah, Zaboor, Injeel (Bible)..

      The question “Do we muslim accept that the Bible is God’s Word?”

      The answer would be to first know “Which Bible are you talking about?” The Roman Catholic Bible, King James Version, Re-Revised and brought up to date bible as the Revised Standard Version (RSV) 1952, and then again RE-RE-Revised in 1971 bible (the Church of ENgland Newspaper quoted this verion to be “”THE FINEST VERSION WHICH HAS BEEN PRODUCED IN THE PRESENT CENTURY.” —— The publishers (Collins) themselves, in their notes on the Bible at the end of their production, say on page 10: “THIS BIBLE (RSV), IS THE PRODUCT OF THIRTY-TWO SCHOLARS, ASSISTED BY AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPRESENTING FIFTY CO-OPERATING DENOMINATIONS.”),….. etc,…. and I dont know how many different revised and altered versions are there.

      We do believe that Bible is the word of God… but that original Bible does not exist anymore. Infact all the revealed book of Allah have been corrupted with time by the people EXCEPT THE QURAN. The Quran mashaAllah still exists in its originality and will continue to remain intact till end of time as promised by Allah… inshaAllah.

      The Quran contains a complete code of life for the individual and society. Alhamdulillah (Praise be to Allah), the Quranic way of life is far superior to the ‘isms’ that modern man has invented out of sheer ignorance. Who can give better guidance than the Creator Himself? I pray that this humble effort to answer your queries is accepted by Allah, to whom I pray for mercy and guidance (Ameen).

      • Hi Navedz;

        I am not talking about translation… translation is done for ease of understanding for human. When I say that the original bible (as in word of God) does not exist anymore.. i point to the alteration of the word of God by human beings. With time… the Bible has been altered umphteenth time… to absorb the whims and desires of human being as per THEIR understanding.

        Can you give some clear examples as to how the Bible has been altered to absorb the whims and desires of human beings per their understanding? This will help keep us from talking past one another something we both know is easy to do in these types of forums.

        The verse of Quran that you quoted, in simple sense it means that Allah’s Message from age to age is always the same, but that its form may differ according to the needs and exigencies of the time. That form was different as given to Moses (pbuh) and then to Jesus (pbuh) and then to Muhammad (pbuh)… the deen of Islam was complete with Muhammad (pbuh).

        The verse I gave you meant the same in the 1st century as it does in the 21st century. God’s Word doesn’t need to change with the times because God doesn’t change with the times as He is the same yesterday, today and forever (Hebrews 13:8).

        The Muslims believe in all the prophets that came before Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and that prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the last prophet of Allah. We therefore belive in Torah, Zaboor, Injeel (Bible)..

        The Bible states that Jesus was the last prophet and was the last one to speak for God. Jesus claimed He was the “I am” yet you want me to believe that Muhammed and the rest of the prophets were equal to Jesus, God’s Son? I can’t accept that because there is no basis for this acceptance.

        The question “Do we muslim accept that the Bible is God’s Word?”

        The answer would be to first know “Which Bible are you talking about?” The Roman Catholic Bible, King James Version, Re-Revised and brought up to date bible as the Revised Standard Version (RSV) 1952, and then again RE-RE-Revised in 1971 bible (the Church of ENgland Newspaper quoted this verion to be “”THE FINEST VERSION WHICH HAS BEEN PRODUCED IN THE PRESENT CENTURY.”  ——  The publishers (Collins) themselves, in their notes on the Bible at the end of their production, say on page 10: “THIS BIBLE (RSV), IS THE PRODUCT OF THIRTY-TWO SCHOLARS, ASSISTED BY AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPRESENTING FIFTY CO-OPERATING DENOMINATIONS.”),….. etc,…. and I dont know how many different revised and altered versions are there.

        It’s true there are plenty of translations and versions but they all have some things in common;

        It has but one purpose, the salvation of men.

        The character of God is the same.

        The moral law is the same.

        It contains the development of one great scheme of salvation.

        We do believe that Bible is the word of God… but that original Bible does not exist anymore. Infact all the revealed book of Allah have been corrupted with time by the people EXCEPT THE QURAN. The Quran mashaAllah still exists in its originality and will continue to remain intact till end of time as promised by Allah… inshaAllah.

        That’s easy to say but tell me something, if the Quran is truly God’s Word, then why so many blatant contradictions. I’ll share just 2 examples;

        In Sura 3:42, 45  SEVERAL angels appear to Mary in the annunciation of the birth of Jesus while in In Sura 19:17-21 only ONE angel appears to the virgin Mary. So which is it?

        In Sura 41:30 and 57:21 there is said to be only one garden in Paradise while in Sura 18:31, 22:23, 25:33, and 78:32 there are many gardens in Paradise. Which is it and since you claim the Quran is uncorrupted are you telling me God contradicts Himself?

        The Quran contains a complete code of life for the individual and society. Alhamdulillah (Praise be to Allah), the Quranic way of life is far superior to the ‘isms’ that modern man has invented out of sheer ignorance. Who can give better guidance than the Creator Himself? I pray that this humble effort to answer your queries is accepted by Allah, to whom I pray for mercy and guidance (Ameen).

        The Bible says the same without the blatant contradictions. Nearly 40 writers make up the bible spanning 1000’s of years while the Quran has a single author. The bible is free of contradictions. The Quran is not.

        Phil

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  9. hey! This article shows the fear of christians from being dominated by muslims.But the fact is the statics they ( christians) are talking about has been conducted by them and obviously how can we (muslims) trust on them? There should be a neutral party which is not possible.

    Islam is the FASTEST GROWING religion no matter what the say or think about muslims. One big proof is the mosque of MAKKAH. No church in the whole world has ever filled with so many christians, not even a single time in the year as much muslims gather in their mosque with very huge population throughout the year and specially at the time of HAJ.I think the view of MAKKAH MOSQUE is a self-evident truth and enough to make all non-muslims feel scared.

    ALLAH bless all muslims

    • Hey nasa,

      hey! This article shows the fear of christians from being dominated by muslims.But the fact is the statics they ( christians) are talking about has been conducted by them and obviously how can we (muslims) trust on them? There should be a neutral party which is not possible.

      Based on your logic you are not a neutral third party so how can we trust the claims you’ve made here?

      Take Care,

      Phil

  10. The Muslim people will continue to have kids at this alarming rate. It is their mission, to slowly devour the earth. They will impose themselves everywhere and over time, when they have reached a majority, they will use violence to convert “infidels.” They have devised a systematic plan to take over and all they need to carry it out is time and devout followers. They have proclaimed that Shariah law will be in England before Democracy is in Afghanistan.

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