TBN Attacks the Senate Investigation

I was waiting for The Beggars Network (TBN) to weigh in on the Grassley investigation into the Sacrilegious Six. TBN has been suspiciously silent and I was beginning to wonder if Paul Crouch Jr. decided that integrity was better then money and not attempt to defend 6 ministries who bring the family empire big bucks. As expected Crouch Jr. defended his pimps and responded with the following “open letter” on the Charisma Magazine’s public forum.  The following letter was posted Tuesday November 13th in response to J. Lee Grady’s, on line editorial regarding the Grassley investigation.

 November 12, 2007 An open letter to Charisma Magazine, J. Lee Grady and the body of Christ as a whole:

After finally getting over my shock at J. Lee Grady’s editorial from a few months ago titled, “Christian TV Needs an Extreme Makeover,” I see that Mr. Grady is once again heading into treacherous waters. His recent editorial about U.S. Senator Chuck Grassley’s call for an investigation of the finances of several prominent television ministries is something that could not only harm the church as we know it today, but the body of Christ as a whole.  

Phil: Yes, how dare Lee Grady stand up for the truth? Paul, these money changers aren’t a part of the Body of Christ. For that matter neither is TBN. I’m starting to believe you aren’t either. On the surface, the Senate Finance Committee’s investigation (and let’s call it by its real intent: an inquisition) headed up by Senator Grassley might sound logical, and to some Christians maybe even a good idea. But the long term effects of this investigation could be devastating. Put aside your personal opinions about any of the six ministries being targeted, and forget how you feel about Christian television as a whole. The much bigger questions we should all be asking are: Do we want the government deciding anything when it comes to the faith we all hold dear? Should government be allowed to dictate what kind a car a minister can drive, or how large a house is permissible and even how much a minister may receive as a salary? Do we want to establish another Church of England, or was that why our forefathers came to this nation in the first place? Separation of church and state is a foundational principle guaranteed in our Constitution, and Mr. Grady’s editorial seems to be ignorant of that fact! 

Phil: Notice how Crouch Jr. defines his “faith he holds so dear”. Cars, houses and money. God and Jesus don’t even rate a mention. This perfectly sums up all six ministries in question because they don’t mention God or Jesus much either. All they seem to care about is “cars houses and money”. These folks are a match made in hell. Tell your pimps to give up their tax exemption status and government would leave them alone. Fat chance this will ever happen. Is this the cake and eat it too anointing?

Also, let’s look at the “source” of Senator Grassley’s information. Ole Anthony, head of the Trinity Foundation, has been around for over twenty years as a self-proclaimed “reformer of the church” and “watchdog for the body of Christ.” Well, it doesn’t take more than one or two Google searches to find out that Ole Anthony’s claim to being the watchdog of Christian ministries is a little like the “fox guarding the chicken coop,” and brings to mind Matthew 7:3 where Christ said, “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?” (Read a book by Wendy Duncan called, I Can’t Hear God Anymore. Enough said….) Why Ole mainly focuses in on “televangelism” is interesting to me, and obviously the senator is playing right into his hands. Why aren’t other faiths or, for that matter, other 501(c) (3) nonprofit organizations being questioned? What about the Catholic church, Jewish organizations, or even the Muslims? You get my point.
Phil: I have to agree with him here. Why Ole Anthony? Ole has big issues and is once again patting himself on the back as some defender of truth when in reality Anthony may be worse then the ministries being investigated. It will be interesting to see just how involved Anthony actually was or is to this investigation.    
 

Martin Luther brought reformation to the church in 1517 with his “95 Theses” nailed to the Wittenberg door, but his actions were directed at the church itself and not with the prevailing government of the day! The body of Christ and God himself will deal with anyone not doing the right thing or compromising any ministry. We don’t need the government to step in and regulate anything when it comes to our faith or the church.  

Phil: I disagree. Government didn’t hunt these ministries down offering them tax exemption. It was the pimps who wanted the exemption. It appears the pimps are abusing the very thing they begged for and now want it both ways. “Give me tax exemption and then stay out of our way when we abuse it” seems to be what Crouch Jr. is saying here. Senator Grassley isn’t investigating their faith he’s investigating possible income tax fraud. That’s a BIG difference folks. Please don’t confuse the issue here.

 Scripture gives us the criteria by which we may judge fellow Believers. The Bible says in Matthew 7:20, “Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.” Are none of these ministries “bearing fruit?” I submit that the true test of a ministry can be determined by asking these questions: Are people getting saved, lives being touched and faith restored? Is the Word being communicated? How many suicides have been prevented? How many people have been delivered from drugs or alcohol and how many children put up for adoption as opposed to abortion? Are other benevolent works taking place such as feeding programs, clothing the naked, sheltering the homeless? How many people have been guided off of welfare rolls? Or how many people will not be returning to jail and, instead, become positive influences on society, because of their faith? Case in point: Just this past week, a viewer called our prayer lines to report that she was about to commit suicide, but then saw Bishop Eddie Long—one of the ministries targeted by Senator Grassley—preach a message that literally saved her life and brought her to faith in Jesus. Mr. Grady didn’t bother to mention any of the good works these ministries are doing. So how much is a soul worth? Maybe we should direct some of these questions back on Senator Grassley and demand his responses by December 6th!  

Phil: Again I disagree. These ministries do some good with the money they beg for. No ones disputing that. How they receive and where and how they spend the sheeple’s money is where the dispute comes in. These people preach another gospel which boils down to heresy. The question begs to be asked “Does the end justify the means”?How much is a soul worth? What has a 23,000 dollar “commode” or a 10,000 dollar a night hotel room have to do with saving souls Paul? What does a 3.5 million dollar penthouse or a Bentley Azure Convertible have to do with saving souls? I think it has more to do with losing souls….their OWN.  

When it comes to “accountability,” I also take issue with Mr. Grady. Whether you agree with the philosophy or theology of anyone in the pulpit or on Christian TV is not the point. It doesn’t matter if they preach the prosperity Gospel and live in mansions, or the poverty Gospel and are all beggars. We must keep the government OUT of the church, or everything our founding fathers fought for is lost! The concept that God would use a senator to “bring on a reformation,” as Mr. Grady proclaims, is scary and ignorant of the facts. We are dealing with spiritual warfare here, and we must fight back. None of these ministries are required by law to do anything in response to Senator Grassley’s investigation, and I hope they don’t. All of us in the ministry answer to the IRS, franchise tax boards, county taxing authorities, etc., and that is sufficient oversight. I don’t care if Benny Hinn flies in a private plane, or if Creflo Dollar drives a Bentley. That’s between them and God. We as Christians are required to give—it’s an intrinsic part of our faith. God gave his best to redeem our souls, his only Son, and we are to do the same.
 

Phil: I like how Crouch states the prosperity gospel is for the rich and the “poverty gospel” is for beggars. Is this wack job kidding me? His “Christian network” sits on over 350 million dollars in liquid assets yet holds not one but two telethons a year? Then he hits us with the “Christians are required to give” line. Give to whom? TBN? Paula White so she can have more fat sucked from her backside and injected into her face? These people are HORRIBLE examples of Christian stewardship. This is certainly not the fertile ground where we are commanded to sow our seed.  Spiritual warfare? Come on Paul. This is a nice attempt at obfuscation but I ain’t buying it. The money changers got caught skimming the till and now are reaping what they’ve sown.
 

I leave you with a quote from Martin Niemoeller who was a prominent German pastor put in a concentration camp by the Nazis in 1937: “In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.” Need I say more?

Paul F. Crouch, Jr.
Chief of Staff
Trinity Broadcasting Network 

Lee Grady is speaking up Paul. Many of us are taking a stand. We may not have the platform that TBN enjoys but we are being heard. The Apostle Paul had the following to say about this mess; 

Romans 13:1-8 ESV 

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also for the sake of conscience. For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed. Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. 

If we say that we trust God then we must trust Him to work in and through the people that God has appointed to handle this horrible situation. In this case that means government. I’m quite certain that many will disagree with me and I look forward to your comments.

24 thoughts on “TBN Attacks the Senate Investigation

  1. Hi Phil,

    I went to the Charisma site and was pleasantly surprised to see the online editor at odds with Crouch Jr. From what the editor J. Lee Grady wrote, he supports the investigation. Grady also makes some very good points about the integrity of Grassley. Bravo! For those who want to buy into Crouch’s position, I suggest reading up on Grassley.

    Here is a link to the article.

    http://www.charismamag.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1742

    Dorothy

    PS. I was in Tampa yesterday and right behind Randy White in his cranberry colored Bentley convertable (top down) at a traffic light. Tell Yomi not to buy his Bentley yet….should the opportunity to pick one up at a government auction become a reality, I can attest that it’s in like new condition. Nice tan leather interior. 🙂

  2. I totally agree with you Phil, its high time the government did something about it. This is a pathetic one. I’m not surprised though ‘cos I didn’t expect anything better from Paul Crouch. Who else will defend them if not TBN.

    They are so hypocritical. They are quick to condemn their staff that do not pay tithe, while they want to have their cake and eat it at the same time. If the sheeple aint smart enough, I guess the government is. They don’t want to be fleeced.

  3. ROLFMBO! Dorothy what a great post!!

    If the “Church” handled their business as they were SUPPOSED TO…there would be no need to call into account the finances.

    Also Crouch said the car or plane should be between them and God…who’s to say God isn’t using Grassley to hold them accountable?? Can I tell you how many times God has used my “enemy” to check my behind??

    and the fact that Bishop Eddie Long is a great ORATOR means what?! Do you know how many CHRISTIANS, who do not know God for themselves, are being scammed by Nigerian & Russian Scammers with online dating…getting bilked for MILLIONS!!

    These scammers have “trigger” words that they use in order to pull on the hearts of Christians, just like the pulpit pimnps. This is at a pandemic level in the U.S.A. you know why? Because these pulpit pimps know just like these foreign scammers do, that Christians esp American Christians have a love & LUST for money. That’s why you’ll flock to the big church versus the rinky-dink church who’s ACTUALLY PREACHING THE TRUTH!
    I left my church when a visiting pastor said “God blesses you according to your seed, not your need, and I have scriptures to prove it…i’ll bring them tomorrow!” excuse me??? I looked at my pastor waited for a correction and nothing. Same church-an old woman screamed, bellowed, whatever you wanna call it…and a “prophetess” said Holy Ghost gave interpretation OF THE SCREAM, BELLOW whatever. i was done then.

    i’ve been out of church for approx 5 mos, not out of my Father, but out of church. I’ve just gone to visit a church near my home and waited for the hook” if you want your life to change, sow a seed of faith” it never came. I’ll be back Sunday.

    Bottom line…what is hidden will be revealed, and pimps can’t be a pimp w/out a willing “HO!”

    WAKE UP CHURCH…STOP BEING STUPID!

    YOU BETTA RECOGNIZE!!

  4. Well said everyone! It’s very hard to hold these rascals accountable due to the fact that each of these so called ministries are independent. They each have handpicked boards filled with family, friends and yes men. This investigation is a very good thing!

  5. Its amazing how offended these Churches became at the mear suggestion of inquiring about their funds. If your not doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about. Clearly they have something to lose.

  6. Ivent,

    LOL – God does have a sense of humor. I had just put my adult daughter in the hospital and was on my way to Target to get her some things. I needed a good laugh and got one…When I realized he was in front of me, I eased my big black truck up as close as I could without hitting him. I couldn’t tell if he was admiring himself in his sideview mirror, or worried that my dusty truck might contaminate his pristine Bentley. LOL

    On a more serious note, God has a long history of using deconstruction to bring about reconstruction. When I saw Charisma dividing on these issues, it reminded me that there is a time and season for everything under the sun. These people have been such a glaring false example of Christianity that when people finally get a taste of what is real Christianity, they won’t soon forget or forsake it.

    I laughed at Phil’s calling TBN The Beggers Network. When I compared that to Crouch’s statement that those who teach prosperity live in mansions while those the teach poverty live like beggers, it struck a note with me. TBN brings poverty to the Gospel imho while we teach PROSPERITY IN CHRIST and IN HIS HOUSE ARE MANY MANSIONS. So who really is the begger?

    I beg you indulgence here while I tell a short story. I work in an industry that hires many poor people during the citrus season. There was a man employed with us by the name of John. Now John looked scarey and dressed like someone most people would cross the street to avoid. He was upset one Sunday about having to work on Church day. He was really catching it from the others because no one viewed him as a Church goer. I watched him withdraw into himself until I asked him where he went to Church. He beamed.

    He proceeded to tell me how poor he was and how he worked shoveling out cow dung from barns early every morning before coming to work. He talked about a little Church that knew he had no time to go home and change clothes before the service, so he attended with cow dung on his boots. He thought there was something pretty special about that. When he got done, you could have heard a pin drop. His testimony was so powerful is silenced everyone. TBN has never aired anyone that can compete with John.

    Dorothy

  7. Your scripture reference to Romans Phil, is all that needs to be said. anyone who disgrees is arguing with scripture, not you. Just as God has used every government in history to carry out HIS WILL AND PURPOSE, he will continue to do so now and in the future.

  8. Dorothy said:

    I was in Tampa yesterday and right behind Randy White in his cranberry colored Bentley convertable (top down) at a traffic light. Tell Yomi not to buy his Bentley yet….should the opportunity to pick one up at a government auction become a reality, I can attest that it’s in like new condition. Nice tan leather interior.

    Thanks for the heads-up, dear sister. I knew the Lord had a purpose for this investigation 😀

    My hour cometh! It is my turn to shine!

  9. Hi Yomi,

    LOL – It could be working out just in your favor…Rumor has it that the market will soon be flooded with Bentleys and even the man who spouts the poverty gospel will be able to afford one, shoot maybe two. LOL

    So, how about them Jets? LOL

    Dorothy

    Phil: See that Yomi. God’s about to bless you but I want a black Bentley Azure and not a sissy car like Randy Whites. Remember, if you tithe you thrive!!!!!

  10. Wow! Dorothy, that story about John is…I don’t know what to call it. Yes! It is arresting.

    Nothing beats the testimony of a man whose love for God is heartfelt! Dung on the boots notwithstanding.

    Lord, give me that kind of heart!

    PS: Phil, I’ll be sure to do a paint job, if I happen to get Paula’s, before sending it in 😀

    How soon may I expect my harvest in the form of a Gulfstream? We have athieving bloke here in Nigeria who touts 24-hour miracles. Hope you can match that.

    Phil: Yes, expect that miracle in 12 hours. Do you think I’d let a mand of Gawd outdo my special “Gulfstream anointing”?

  11. Hey Naomi,

    Actually, I don’t think Phil and Yomi need any aid or encouragement. They seem to be doing just fine on their own. LOL

    On a more serious note, I have been waiting to see if Moody radio would start speaking out on the topic of the TV evangelists. Well, today they have been airing their interview with Grassley. The interview came across as very much pro Grassley and the investigation. They covered all the bases on why the investigation was called for, how and who provided information – no mention of Ole – and the concerns about nature of the complaints on these ministries over the last 5 years. Grassley complimented the press for their part in the investigation.

    He did made a joke about the commode. He wanted to make sure no ones contributions were being flushed down it. LOL

    Now about those jets? Which one is it Yomi wants? LOL

    Dorothy

  12. LOL Yomi,

    Just a Gulfstream? Just a Gulfstream??? ROFLOL Don’t ask ME about humble jets. I hate to fly. It would be an honor to represent you at the auction as long as it’s not too far to drive. Although, I’m not real fond of traveling either. LOL

    Dorothy

  13. Prosperity Pirates – Faith pioneer preachers long ago discovered television ministry. With sermons majoring in faith and “minoring” in works, they cleverly built up psychic-spiritual pressure in passive TV viewers to somehow do works. And surprise, surprise, the work at hand was… to donate. And donate the faith-strong but verity-weak did. The faith teachers justified their exotic prosperity as deserved let-them-watch-us-eat-cake and not, God forbid, as reverse Robin Hood extortion. In essence, paupers gave to pirates who said their plunder was puddings’ proof to the pudding-less poor. Such mind rape does not come easy, but the bountiful plunder afforded large and generally successful engines of reality distortion and deceit: Self-exalting glossy ministry mailings, video shows orchestrated to idolize unquestionable prow figurehead leaders no matter how lifeless, immersion in false doctrine brain-washing Red Communists never in their wildest dreams would have thought possible and pure brazen lies that good was evil and vice versa. But avast there, mateys! Pirate lore says a certain Captain Kidd had – shall we say – bothersome bipolar episodes. Though he lent his ship’s block and tackle to build Manhattan Island’s beloved Trinity Church – near the site of the fallen World Trade Center Towers, no less – in the end jolly old England hung him and left his body to publicly rot in a cage above Thames for two years. Then there’s the sad tale of Black Beard, who lost his head by the sword of an English officer. That same head was displayed first on the bow of a ship, then used to collect bounty and finally rested on a pike in Bath, England. Lastly, there be Black Bart who died in battle despite the gold cross ‘e wore ‘round ‘is neck! Though these pirate scoundrels no doubt performed bounteous good works, some e’en for the Lord Himself, few tears were shed at their demise. Pirates can blow before the winds of their fancy for time and times and a half, but landlubbers, they not be able to prosper themselves w’out bloody end! If you can believe the ship’s scuttlebutt, a pirate’s end is unforgiven brutal, mates. Them unrepentant ones, I speak o’, for we all confess terrible deeds, ‘ceptin’ o’course them ’eartless pirates! (All this to be taken spiritually, not literally.)

  14. @ Cap’n Burke

    Heave to and trice up!

    Your effort is one of the most entertaining rejoinders to the vile shenanigans those prosperity pirates perpetuate upon those ignorant of the Scriptures.

    Thanks be to God – through my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ – that He allows me to continually repent of my sins!

    In Mk 1:15, the Greek for “repent” is rendered in the 2nd person, present tense, active voice and imperative mood.
    Thus, Jesus commands us to “keep on repenting.”)

    I pray that we, Mr. Burke, never “become unrepentant.”

    As for the prosperity pirates?

    We will continually fire broadsides into their ships of shame.

  15. Hello Everyone,

    May the Lord be with you all. This whole issue with TBN and the six ministies that are under invesigation bother me deeply. I’am afriad the only that this issue is going to hurt all Churches.
    And they are many Churches who try to do the Lord’s will.

    I got turned off to TBN and especally John Hagee,
    who said in one of those “Praise-a-Thons”,”If you want to be blessed send us a $1000″. This made me sick. I mean what is happening is the Lord charging for his help. Is the Lord saying,”IF you want or need help send me $1000 and I’ll think about it. What has happened?

    Maybe Paul and Jan Crouch needs to be invesigated too. I dont know what has happened and is happening maybe someone can enlighten me on this whole thing.

    God Bless
    Cyrus

  16. I think TBN and that crowd are blasphemer of God and His Son The Lord Jesus Christ. What I do not understand why the government has waited so long to investigate these carpetbaggers. They live it up on poor people who have so little and laught and spend their money on rich living. To attack these 6 ministry the government is doing us a public service. They are crimials hiding in religion. Today the problem with people is they do not know what the Bible says. This makes these people exist.
    BY HIS GRACE, PASTOR STALLINGS

  17. Hello Everyone,
    I’am a poor man I dont have much and I dont believe the this Prosperity Gospel, So I guess I;am in with the beggers gospel.
    But I wonder who is the real beggers are me or TBN?

  18. I am a man in my 60s that has spent more than 40 years as an alcoholic.

    I watched TBN desperately seeking healing and answers for the ravaged life I had, living alone after losing my wife and family through divorce. I had a part time job. I was still drinking and that is one of the things that makes us sheeple people so vulnerable to the fraud and manipulation of these scoundrels.

    I began sending in money trying to get the big jackpot blessing. I ended up sending all my savings from the sale of our home home. The last amount I sent in was $8,000 during their 2005 “Praise-a-thon” (I was drunk at the time) for a total of more than $20,000. The next thing to happen was illness and the loss of my job. I was broke and had to live on credit cards.

    I have a job now but remained trapped in nearly $30,000 of credit debt. I’ll have to work until I fall over. Sure I am a stupid jerk and deserve what I have. But please realize that confused alcoholics and drug abusers are a big source of their revenue. People in their right mind don’t do such silly things.

    Hearing Paul Crouch boast about all the cash TBN has and their lack of any debt infuriates me. It is wretched fools like me that they prey upon and use the money to payoff Paul Crouch’s blackmail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Crouch) and buy his multi million dollar home.

    This is painful to tell and please don’t scoff and scorn me. I berate myself every day over this. I just hope it adds some additional perspective.

    Anyone willing to say a prayer for me would be appreciated.

    Phil: Wayne. I’m sorry you were duped by that. I would never scorn or mock you. I feel responsible because I used to be a part of this mess. And you are NOT a stupid jerk Wayne. WoF actually targets the poor and needy as well as those with substance abuse problems. Rather then reaching out to a brother or sister in need they rape them. We will be praying for you Wayne and remember something else. When you do fall over the Lord will carry you to heaven just like He did with the thief on the cross. Rejoice in that my Brother!

  19. Wayne

    I am sorry to hear about your ordeal. I pray that God willrepay to you what you lost and that everything you are struggling with will come to an end.
    I will also advise that you consider getting godly outseide help.And to join a church where God’s word is preached as it is.

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