Dr. Nasir Siddiki

The Blasphemers Ball (Praise-a-thon) has recently concluded. I’m still amazed at what I saw and heard from the mouths of the shameless heretics and blasphemers that graced the various sets of TBN. During the next few weeks I will be blogging concerning the various blasphemers who were the special invited guests of the blasphemer’s ball. Today I will begin with Dr. Nassir Sidiki.

Dr. Sidiki is a former Muslim who was seriously ill when he allegedly cried out to God to save him. He was cured of his illness and later accepted Jesus Christ as his personal savior. He was a successful businessman who lost it all, became a minister and learned all about sowing a seed for a specific need. Currently, Sidiki is used by various networks to raise money at praise-a-thons.


Nassir Sidiki had the nerve to use 1Kings 17 as a way of fleecing the TBN faithful. He claimed that the widow woman was poor because she was disobedient. He claimed that the widow woman was about to commit suicide. He claimed that Elijah had a car. He claimed that the widow woman, because she was obedient, regained her wealth because of this obedience.


Sidiki failed to mention there was a great famine in the land. The poor widow woman was afraid that after what little food there was left, there would be no more. There isn’t any indication that she was suicidal or even contemplating such a dire act. There isn’t any indication that she became “rich” because of her obedience or was poor from her disobedience. She had food for a long time because she was obedient to God.


Oh, and for the record, they didn’t have cars back then ‘Dr. Sidiki’.


If this wasn’t ridiculous enough, 2 nights later Sidiki claimed that you must “sow a seed” to receive God’s Grace.

Ephesians 2:8  for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

Ephesians 2:9  not of works, that no man should glory.



Paul doesn’t say to “sow a seed” into TBN to receive grace. He says it’s a gift. A free gift. There isn’t anything we need to do other then to accept this free gift.  According to Sidiki’s flawed theology, we have to buy this free gift instead of accepting this gift through faith in Jesus Christ.


All of this blaspheming was done in order for the viewers to “sow a seed” in obedience to God (TBN). Sidiki claims that “God doesn’t give a seed to every Christian only the ones who know what to do with it”. He further claims that “all of our problems are solved in the seed”. Just in case your problems aren’t solved Sidiki has this to say “the reason the seed doesn’t grow is because it hasn’t touched the anointing”. If Sidiki is to be believed, only Christians who sow into TBN are being obedient, their problems will be solved and only by sowing into TBN will the seed grow since TBN is anointed. Guess I’m out of luck as I wouldn’t give heretics like TBN and Sidiki one thin dime.


Blasphemers like Sidiki will stop at nothing to fleece the flock. This is why Sidiki was an invited guest of Blasphemer in Chief Paul Crouch. Much like Crouch, Sidiki is a heretic and blasphemer of the first degree. His sole purpose for being there is to separate the faithful from their funds. He plays fast and loose with the Scriptures and jumps around the bible so fast that it’s difficult to keep up with him. He continually laughs and often asks the viewers “oh, are you getting this”. Oh, I get it Dr. Sidiki. It’s a pity that more people don’t.



83 thoughts on “Dr. Nasir Siddiki

  1. Who comes up with these kind analysis? My comment is if Dr Nassir is filtering money from people through TBN, the question is what is that money being spent on. If the answer is personal profit, then take the matter before God how is the avenger or all transrations. Dont you think you are being judgmental and that probably you understood his preaching/teaching out of context?The bible says there is only one Judge, and His dwelling place is in heaven. I am not supporting TBN but am rather using the bible as a source of my understanding. It’s true that if you give whole heartedly to God, He has said He will give back. (Malachi 3:8-10) It is also said the he who sows sparingly shall reap sparingly and he that sows generouly shall reap generously. Whether Dr Nassir is a heretic, faulse teacher or not, the bible says he has received his full share added to his account and definately the day the son on man comes in his glory, its either high way to heaven or high way to hell. It is written. The battle belong to God.

    Hi Nathan,

    Thanks for your comment and welcome to Theology Today!

    I came up with this analysis but it wasn’t too difficult to see that the good Reverend plays fast and loose with the Word of God. He uses the Scriptures as a tool to make money. In this instance, it was for TBN but I’m fairly certain he will receive some benefits as well, such as more time on Praise the Lord, more speaking engagements and maybe his very own TV show. The only real losers are the people who believe the rubbish he spews.

    I’m not being judgmental here Nathan. Ephesians 5:11 tells us not to have fellowship with these heretics but to reprove them, which is what I did. I didn’t take what he said out of context. I watched this message numerous times and he was peddling grace. Grace is a free gift (Ephesians 2:8-9). In other words, you can’t buy it with a tithe, like Sidiki teaches.

    Malachi 3:8-10 deals with tithing Nathan. Tithing was a law and the Jews were guilty of breaking this law. These tithes had nothing to do with money but with eatable things. Please remember that the tithes were meant to be distributed to the poor and not to build another wine cellar in one of Paul and Jan’s mansions or to buy another TV station. God was telling his people that if they stop robbing Him, He will bless them. That promise isn’t for us because it doesn’t apply to us. We are under Grace Nathan because Jesus fulfilled the law.

    Nathan, all I’m doing is trying to educate people about heretics like Sidiki. He’ll get his in the end. My concern is the people who believe his nonsense because they are being taught a false Christ which means that they, if they don’t accept the Jesus of the Bible, will suffer the same fate as Sidiki.


  2. You people who try to bring the church backwards instead of forward are pathetic. To come in here and judge people ( judge not least ye be judged) is silly. I myself just found this blog and am amazed how atheist use it for their purpose, rather than to speak truths, its just opinions!!. And yes I do agree that some ministries do wrong, but it will be up to the Lord not us to judge them. Please this is like putting acid on the wound. Stop with the selfish retoric, and let them go on preaching the gospel, if they are not meant to be we have a BIG God who will stop them.

  3. Seth,

    Opinions? No, this is what this guy teaches. His reason for being on the beg-a-thons on TBN and other places is to raise money.

    Is God’s Grace for sale? I don’t think so but please correct me with Scripture Seth.

    The truth is simple Seth. Are you ready to face the truth?

    I don’t judge Sidiki as a person but I can examine his teachings and they are heretical.

    Thanks for stopping by.

  4. Well, I must come to the defense of Dr. Sidiki. Now I am not going to get into a chapter and verse debate as to whether Elijah had a “car,” et al. All I can say is that I have had the wonderful experience of hearing Dr.Sidiki speak twice and I am planning to hear him again this weekend! He is an EXCELLENT speaker in person and really gets you excited about reading Bible and living a Christian life.

    Yes, he speaks a lot about sowing a seed but I see that as a means to increase your faith. It’s up to the individual to determine how much of a seed they want to sow. It’s the intention that counts.

    I have been richly blessed by Dr. Sidiki’s teachings. In fact, he sparked a turnaround in my own life, so please, do not call him a blasphemer!

  5. Hi Paula Quick,

    He is an excellent speaker. Just what did he say biblicly to spark your turnaround?

    Sowing a seed is Sidiki speak for “give me your cash”. It has nothing to do with increasing your faith.

    Please show me biblicly why I shouldn’t call Sidiki a blasphemer.


  6. Thank you for what you are doing Phillyflash. Thanks to the phony that you are exposing I am nearly stuck in the clutches of struggling in my walk with God. Please pray for me because I am fighting a losing battle because when I found out about Benny Hinn I was stunned. I could not believe that a person like him would just flat out lie in order to decieve minions to look to him for spiritual guidance! I am still finding it hard to trust anybody in a world where it is tough to trust anyone to start with. TBN should be called the Trangression Blasphemy Network! Thanks man and please pray for me because I truely need it!

  7. I agree with U Phillyflash, these Pastors are really getting out of hand. Yes, we need money to help the poor and spread the messeage of salvation, but it isn’t intended for all of us(saints) to be wealthy. How much more does TBN need, they take in over 100 million dollars a year. why can’t the Pastors and Bishops that host the show donate money instead of begging the poor for support.

  8. In defense of Dr. Nasir Siddiki (note correct spellings), the Praise-A-Thon is a fundraiser so I would expect the guests would tie their messages intoto sowing seeds and ministry. I don’t mean to be smart, but the Jerry Lewis Labor Day Telethon is all about raising money for a wonderful cause, and consequently raising money is the focus of program.

    Now, regarding Dr. Siddiki, I went to hear him three nights where he spoke about “The Law of Thought and Harvest,” a Biblical look at the Law of Attraction (made wildly popular recently in “The Secret”). He also spoke of how strongholds of the mind are formed and how to get rid of them. I have had a chance to speak with him personally and I can tell you that only only is he an excellent speaker, but also he is an expert on the Bible and most importantly, a true Christian.

    Of course he had an offering, but I never once felt badgered or hit over the head for some humongous donation. Yes, he does have his own TV show (Monday mornings at 8.a.m. after Paula White on TBN) and money is needed to keep it on the air.

    Before blasting this man based upon his appearance on TBN’s Praise-A-Thon, I would encourage you to learn to watch his TV program, buy his CDs, and in general learn more about him than categorically dismissing him as a TBN heretic.

    With all sincerity,


  9. I agree with Paula, Dr Sidiki is a geit man of God.
    The most important thing is to hear the Word, pray that It reveals its self to you. Not Sidiki. The word.
    Ps 107:20 God sent His Word and healed them.
    Is 55:11 So shall my word be that goes forth from M mouth; It shall not return to Me void.
    Prov 4:20-22 My son, give attention to my WORDS;(not to s-body)Incline your ear to my sayings (The Lord is trying to talk to you, doesn’t matter the person, God made us all on his own Image. Those with different agendas, Let them be dealt with the Lord our Juge) DO not let them depart from your eyes; Keep them in the midst of your heart. And they are LIFE to those who find them. And health to those who find them.
    To those who are deceive others, God says I know your Works. Rev 3:8.
    Abou the false prophet, in Rev19:20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet….they were cast alive into the lake of fire…. Just in Case Dr Sidiki is.

  10. I really dont like what you have written about Dr Nassir Siddiki. Beware, dont be deceived, Jesus is coming back soon. it does not pay you to criticise people, I do not like it at all.

  11. Dr. Nasir Sadiki is preaching at a church, “Showers of Blessings” in Rocky Mt, NC. I went to see him last night and was greatly disturbed by some of his teachings. It was nothing more than a minstrel show where he re-enact Jesus’ encounter with the blind beggar. He then said that this beggar sowed his seed by being faithful. However Dr. Sadiki then states that there are 4 ways for those in the congregation to receive a “healing, blessing, etc”.
    Ways to receive healing according to Dr. Sadiki
    1. take the tithing envelope and write down on it specifically what we need 2- pray 3 obey God by sowing a seed ($). He stated clearly, “little seeds brings little harvest”, “you better obey God”. 4-receive your blessing.
    I was shocked that in order to receive healing I would have to pay some money. He also stated that his TV ministry needed a million dollars. This man is OUTRAGEOUS. I could not believe the things coming out of his mouth. He said that, God was speaking to 10 people to sow a seed of $1000.

    Can someone please tell me if they think this “name it and claim it” heretic should be brought up on charges for FRAUD!?

  12. I have to say, I’ve heard him preach, and met him in person. He’s not a pulpit pimp, he’s actually a genuine guy who wants to see Christians be out of debt and prosperous.

    He’s a nice guy, and so is his wife.

    • Thank you for your sincere comment. Only Jealous ones make negative comments. Nasir is God,s servant, who is bringing the truth of God,s word to the nation.

  13. Thanks so much for the pro-Siddiki comments. I’ve heard him speak live several times now, have spoken with him one-on-one. At the same time, I also greatly appreciate the comment earlier about hearing the Word for yourself and having it reveal itself to you. I can honestly say that through the teachings of Dr. Siddiki, I genuinely have been moved to study the Word more deeply and have gotten revelation in the process. Blessings to all!

  14. Previous writers were inquiring as to where”Dr.” Siddiki spends his money. You may want to check the tax records in Osage County in Oklahoma. In the past five years he has spend over 1.5 million dollars in this area on property. To date there have been two homes and three lots purchased. The purchase of a third house is reportidly to take place in October. These properties have been purchased under various names including
    he and his wife, his ministries and a brother-in-law. Just wondering how many prayers were requested to pay for these properties. You may also want to check out his “Dr.” credentials. They seem to be “honorary” from a now defunct bible college in Oklahoma City

  15. Wow I am ashamed to see such writings about a prosperity preacher dr.siddiki. What would you say if God shows you His end time plan for his church.Don’t you read isaiah chapter 61 that says there will be wealth transfer from all nations to zion(church).what about the prophecy of haggai that is haggai 2.9,God will shake the heaven and earth and will feel with the glory of the nations to his church! Already God has given us this strategy and we have began to preach this in Eritrea.(East Africa)

  16. Dr.sidiki is a man of God.He teaches christians to live by sowing and reaping(living in canaan) rather than expecting manna(as moses generation did i.e living with sudden miracles) we must realize this truth and move forward to another present truth.Jesus said if we are in his kingdom and follow his righteousness ALL THINGS the gentiles need will follow us.

  17. i heard Dr. Sidiki this moring. Dr. the things of the spirit are foolishness the worldy wise and those endowed with foolishness, nad spiritual blindness, becuase of who their father is.

    The moon cannot bother about every puppy that howls at it. the puppies will pass away, the moon will keep on being the moon. Thank you for your contribution to the Work of the Lord

  18. I watched Dr Siddiki preaching about sowing the seed from nairobi kenya. i cant help thinking that your article is completely out of context. The tone is scornful and there is a tinge of malice in it. You should be ashamed of writting such articles.

  19. I don’t really need to say much on this, but I am usually weary of anyone on TBN, although not everyone who shows up on TBN is false. To name a few; Kirk Cameron, Ray Comfort, Dr. Carl Baugh (the one who runs the creation museum who talks about dinosaurs and science), and others as well. Most just do not serve God according to scripture without twisting it, and i’m afraid Sidiki is one of them.

  20. Siddiki is a fraud and I agree with the first article. He is not even a doctor he has an honorary doctorate for a bible collage he paid off. The guy came to our church for a 5 day teaching and tore it apart. His teaching is not biblical and every thing was about money. He even had a advanced training session were he would show how he could guaranty a return of 300% on the stock market. The pastor believed this liar and told anyone would not follow this teaching to don’t come back.

    • i feel so sorry for you and will be praying for you. Who choose you to be a judge? Judge not, lest you be judged with greater severity.

  21. To whom it may concern:

    I just ran across this site as I was doing a little research on “Siddiki” here myself.

    I fully agree with the first article above that exposes this “Siddiki” for the heretic that he most assuredly is. It is a breath of fresh air to hear someone expose these men for the deceived deceivers that they are.

    On the other hand though, it is quite sad to see how many deceived ones run to the defense of men such as Siddiki whereby they then fall headlong into a ditch with him.

    I have been a Christian for some 30 years now and do a great deal of apologetic work myself. As anyone knows, who obeys the Scriptures and thereby is defending the faith which was once delivered unto the saints against these “flock-fleecers”, such obedience to God’s Word does not make one very popular with the vast majority of “Christians”.

    I have watched the likes of Oral Roberts, Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth & Gloria Copeland, Creflo and Taffi Dollar, Fred Price, Paula White etc., for many years now on TBN (The Beggars Network). One thing that never ceases to amaze me in all this is that the more outrageous their false-teachings have become over the years, is how the multitudes that follow them just continue to grow. This demonstrates the Scriptures quite well when they speak of the apostasy that would come in the latter times.

    Surely this apostasy is upon us as so very many are climbing aboard the “ecumenical ark” of false-teachings of all sorts and thereby making shipwreck of their faith.

    I have watched Oral Roberts referring to Jesus Christ “The Seed” sown by God on the Cross and using this as an example of how “believer’s are to “sow seed” for worldly gain.

    I have watched the “Paula White” show around Easter with that other heretic “Steve Muncey” where they had a cross in the background with pieces of paper nailed to it, supposedly requests of whatever sort, in order to get their viewers to send them money.

    I have watched Creflo Dollar take the “fruit of the Spirit” in Galatinas 5 and supposedly “correct” the false view (false according to Creflo) that the “Spirit” there is not referring to the fruit of the Holy Spirit, but rather to a regenerated man’s spirit. The kicker here is that his message was supposed to about “selfishness”. What could be more selfish than attributing the fruit of the Holy Spirit to man’s spirit?

    I have watched Fred Price boasting about his Rolls Royce and other worldly gain that he has accumulated by preaching his lies.

    I have watched the Kenneth Copeland Show, just last week in fact, where he had this “Christian” medical doctor on and they were talking about eating properly and what not. Here, the “doctor”, to which Copeland agreed, turned Romans 12:1 & 1 Cor. 6:19-20 which are about holiness of body etc., into a diet plan.

    I have read Hagin where he states that, “The Christian is as much an incarnation as is Jesus Of Nazereth”. [The virgin birth; Word of faith, 12 1977, p.8.]

    I’m watching Rod Parsley right now here in my study as I write this telling us to sow a “now seed” a “sacrificial seed” like we’ve never sown before for $2008.00 here in the year of 2008 so we can receive an “uncommon harvest”.

    Oh wait a minute, here comes Marilyn Hickey talking about “the power of the seed”.

    These people have one goal, your money for their gain.

    We would do well to hear the Word of God here:

    “18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:

    19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)” Phil. 3:18-19.
    What more can I say but this.

    Anyone who defends these types has been deceived by the serpent, had their mind corrupted and is following another Jesus just as Paul warned us about not doing here in 2 Cor. 11:

    “3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

    4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”

    Those who follow and/or defend these types of men and women are sadly doing exactly what Paul says here “ye might well bear with him”.

    In closing here, someone in one of these post, to defend these heretics, used the Word spoken by Jesus here in Matthew 7:1:

    “Judge not, that ye be not judged.”

    I will warn every one of you who defend these or any other type of heretic, about this verse. When it comes to spreading his deception and keeping The Truth from being heard, this verse is one of Satan’s favorite verses, which he uses in his attempt to deceive the multitudes with his lies.

    Unfortunately, “attempt” is the wrong word here, for Satan is actually doing it as many of these posts clearly demonstrate.

    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.

    “3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

    4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

    5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.” 1 Tim. 6:3-4.

    A Christian,
    Timothy J. Bortner

  22. Just a comment: Yes, I do agree some ‘evangelists’ do only focus on getting your money, but I have to disagree with calling Dr Sidiki a blasphemer.

    I have read his book on Financial Success and what struck me most was that his focus was mainly on developing a powerfull, full-time relationship with God. He points out that we have to sow and we will reap great rewards, but he constantly say that all of that is dependant on having a close relationship with God and to live your entire live according to God’s will for you. In fact, the first six chapters of this 12 chapter book on finances, deals with nothing but developing you as a mature and strong Christian. It is only in the 7th chapter the he even starts talking about money and then always in the context of God’s will. He repeatedly say that you MUST NOT SOW beacause people tell you so, only if you are sure it is God that tells you to do so.

    Lastly, it bothers me that you say that Dr Sidiki “alledgedly” cried out to God to save him. If you really love God, as you claim to do, you would rejoice with every soul that was lost and found Christ! Yes, Dr. Sidiki might have things in his live that is not 100% correct, the same way you and me also have, but that is excatly why Christ keeps on working on us.

    May God’s love flow into your heart.


  23. Hey Jaco,

    I hope this finds you well.

    I have not read the book you mention. But, I could just as easily argue, from what you say here, that Sidiki knows how to sell his work.

    It strikes me as just a little strange, like all of these TBN’ites, it always gets back to money.]

    Just because Sidiki may call upon the name of Christ means nothing for not all those who say Lord, Lord, shall be saved, but those that do the will of God are the ones that will truly be saved.

    A Christian,
    Timothy J. Bortner

  24. You need to read and study the word >IT is GOD> Then you will not take the Doctors teaching out of context also you will be a man with knowledge not full of ignorance, JESUS saves!


  26. To whom it may concern:

    I take it that this here quoted below is for me:

    “You need to read and study the word >IT is GOD> Then you will not take the Doctors teaching out of context also you will be a man with knowledge not full of ignorance, JESUS saves!”

    I do read and study God’s Word daily, which is precisely the reason for why I write what I write about these greed-profits whose god is their belly.

    With all due respect to you, but if you think that these types of men are true men of God, then simply put, you yourself do not know what a true man of God is.

    To answer the other post about these TV evangelists needing money to spread the Gospel, that is true in the proper context. Unfortunately, these people like Benny Hinn, Oral Roberts, Paula White, Marcus Lamb of Daystar infamy, etc., whoever are of this sort are quite often not doing what they say with the money they receive. What they are doing is living high off the sweat of other people’s hard earned money.

    Benny Hinn for one example has been investigated and documented to be known to stay in rooms that vary in price from a few thousand to $10,000 a night, eating at the best restaurants for a thousand dollars or more a meal etc.

    True, of course, it is more blessed to give than to receive. So then, how blessed do you feel now about what you might be giving to such an one as Hinn? I hope as blessed as Hinn is, heh-heh.

    Benny Hinn’s “healings” have also been investigated by both secular and sacred researchers and have been found to be a lot of big talk with no varifiable healings, if not just down right lies like I’ve seen him tell when talking in one of his healing services to the people there about a dead man being raised on the stage he was on over in Kenya I think it was, telling them, “and that is a fact people”. And then when being interviewed on some investigative show about it he “sheepishly” said, “I did not see it myself, I only heard about it”.

    Hinn prophesied on New Years Eve of 89 that Castro would die in the mid 90’s; that God would also destroy the homosexual community (to the cheers and applause of the crowd there; what type of “Christians are these who find pleasure in the death of the wicked?) in America with fire then too. Castro is still alive and the homosexual community is thriving and in fact has made some really big advancements in the 90’s till now right here in America.

    Hinn is a liar, a thief, a false-prophet/teacher etc., just like Kenneth Hagin (now dead), Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, the list goes on.

    Of course, these men thrive due to one reason, and that being that “there is a sucker born every minute”. No, make that two reasons, the other one being “that a fool and his money are soon parted”.

    The sad thing here is that you have people who are desperately in need of healing who are putting their trust and money into these heretics who often end up worse than before they started for not only do they not get healed, now they are often broke because they believed one of these liars.

    I have only one word for them, may God reward them according to their works except they repent.

    And for all of you on this site who post in defense of these types, may God open your eyes to the truth of it all.

    A Christian,
    Timothy J. Bortner

  27. May God forgive those who accuse wrongly. it’s a long story, but I had cancer and doctors left me to die as it had spread and my immune system was shutting down. someone gave me Siddiki’s Cds on faith and healing. There was no mention on all 18 Cds about money for healing. He inspired me to build my faith and trust God despite the physical signs and medical reports.

    Initially I believed God would heal me, but i listened to people like you and decided that healing was not for everybody and that it ended with the apostles etc. I’m glad i listened to the Word of God through him and put into practice all he taught.

    Today, i am completely healed and others who were around me including my radiographer and one nurse got saved through that. He is human and makes mistakes like you and i. That doesn’t make him fake the same way our mistakes don’t make us false christians. I know he is annointed by God which makes me wonder who’s side you’re on.

    My advice to you is that instead of putting up such bloggs against people of God, why don’t you rather start bloggs that show the genuine ones.

    If a new Christian comes on this site, he/she will only be discouraged and leave the faith, but if you at least leave those you think are false to God and recommend those you think are good, you will actually be doing good.

    I do pray that God gives you wisdom to do your stuff. I believe God will use you in an amazing way if you trust Him.

  28. Hi Laura,

    This site is officially 1 year old today. From the countless emails I receive, the majority actually thank me for exposing wolves like Siddiki.

    Do you really believe that you received your healing from watching his cd’s?

    Someone would actually leave the faith because of a website like this one? If that were the case, then their faith probably isn’t built on very solid ground then, is it?

    I absolutely believe in healing….just not healers.

    Praise God for your healing and for your testimony Laura!

  29. The reason i say new Christians will leave the faith is because you are only saying bad things about people they may have had help from in the past and also you don’t recommend anyone so they’ll leave because they see Christians bashing Christians and wouldn’t know who to trust.

    To answer your question, YES. It was his CDs that helped me build my faith and i had my healing at a point when the cancer had invaded my whole body and i was paralyzed and left to die. Even when i listened to his CDs and built my faith to receive healing, other christians kept telling me not to raise my hopes and accept the facts cos God gives and takes etc. Today, all those people have a stronger faith in God.

    I don’t believe in healers, the only healer is Jesus. In all his CDs I listened to, he never introduced himself as a healer, but rather he said he is a teacher in the church.

    You can listen to 1. Healing made simple and 2. the rest of faith. you’ll understand what i mean. I believe he is a man of God who has helped a lot of people cos i gave those CDs to others who were shocked to see me healed and they got serious about the word of God.

    If what you are saying he said is not out of context, then I agree it’s not right, but instead of calling him names, i’d rather pray for him not to fall into the same trap a lot of preachers have fallen into. Hopefully, you’ll admit that you’ve not always done the right thing. Does that make you a false Christian or an atheist? NO.

    One of the things i like about him is that when he gets a revelation on something he has mistaught in the past, he apologises publicly. I have heard him apologize for teaching something and later the Holy Spirit convicted him. We need to pray for such people, not condemn them.

    Even Peter who walked and talked with Jesus and walked on water made some mistakes, but Jesus didn’t condemn him.

    I’m not saying Siddiki is perfect, but instead of condemning the man totally, it is safer for you to condemn the wrong teachings of the people.

    I wouldn’t be alive if not for his teaching on healing which made me read the bible with clearer understanding. I know a lot of people who have been helped through those CDs.

    Which known preacher will you recommend and why?

    Thanks and God bless you

    Phil: Hi Laura,

    John MacArthur is one teacher I recommend another is John Piper. They are both reformed and teach the Bible line upon line without adding to it. These are just two……there are many others.

    Laura, if what I reported about his teachings were out of context, someone from his organization would have contacted me. I’ve been contacted by Joyce Meyer’s people in relation to a 23,000 commode….I thought it was a toilette…it was a table and I retracted this statement here on the site.

    I taped Nassir and watched it several times and he taught EXACTLY what I reported. He doesn’t teach healing at the beg-a-thons…he’s there to raise money and he’s VERY good at this.

  30. When it comes to the way some of these men or women of God use and waste money, I think it’s completely ungodly and i agree with you there. That however doesn’t mean that all they teach is wrong. God said he will even use stones to praise him.

    Luke 9:49-50 (NKJV)

    Now John answered and said, “Master, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow with us.”
    50 But Jesus said to him, “Do not forbid him, for he who is not against us is on our side.”

    Jesus never stopped anyone from using His name. Why should we? Let’s face it, despite all the things Benny Hinn does which he shouldn’t, he has lead many more to Christ more than you and I combined. It is Christ who does the conviction, not man, but he will use anyone who makes himself available to make sure the gospel is heard.

    I don’t agree with the lifestyles of many of the televangelists, but I still listen to some of them because like it or not, the Lord uses them and speaks through them sometimes. It doesn’t mean i believe everything they say. It is not them we should follow, but rather Jesus and sometimes they help.

    Surely they have more value than stones. As i mentioned in my other response, it’s better to condemn just the wrong teachings, not the people otherwise we are also sinning big time. Jesus said “Do not forbid them…” so if we do, we are disobeying a direct command.

    I know someone who was a hindi, but listened to Kenneth Copeland and Benny Hinn as she was just scrolling through the channels. She gave her life to Christ and started going to a local church. 9 months later, her husband and 2 children gave their lives to Christ and they are the happiest they’ve ever been. Sometimes she is not sure of some of the things they say on TV, but instead of telling her not to listen to them again, i explain things to her, let her know that preachers don’t always get it right and encourage her to read the bible to check out everything.

    God can even use an atheist to spread his good news without the person realizing. God can use anyone and anything. Let’s be careful when we condemn.

    God bless you

    Phil: It’s one thing to “use” His Name, it’s another thing to blaspheme His Name. Copeland, Dollar and Hinn are probably the best examples of blasphemy that you can find out there today. It’s funny that you mention atheists……I better not go there.

  31. Hi Tim,

    I have read some of the teachings you are condemning, and clearly, you don’t know the scriptures as well as you may think. Let’s look at the scripture on fruits of the spirit which you condemned Creflo for

    Galatians 5:22-26
    22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

    When we become born again, our spirit is regenerated by the Holy Spirit and we are to be lead by Him. If we say the fruits are solely produced by the Holy Spirit, it means we don’t take any responsibility for our actions. The fruits are not just emotions, the are active words which must be seen in our lives.

    The obvious and undeniable teaching of the New Testament is that the Spirit is in Christians and that Christians are in the Spirit.

    In addition to the above, it should also be observed that Christians are commanded to “have this mind in you, which was also in Christ Jesus” (Philippians 2:5), Paul declaring that he himself had “the mind of Christ” (1 Corinthians 2:16). Also, it is a commandment to the church of all ages that they shall “let the word of Christ dwell in you richly” (Colossians 3:16). Thus the mind of Christ dwells in Christians, and the word of Christ dwells in Christians.

    God is in Christians.
    Christians are in God.
    Christ is in Christians.
    Christians are in Christ.
    The Holy Spirit is in Christians.
    Christians are in the Holy Spirit.
    The mind of Christ is in Christians.
    The word of Christ is in Christians.

    Even though the Holy Spirit is in us, He never pushes us or forces us to do anything. We have a choice and will to obey or disobey.

    What is love?
    An intense desire to please God, and to do good to mankind; The Holy Spirit cannot and will not produce this action on your behalf, but rather if you yield to His guidance, you will be transformed through the word to love.

    If any man is in Christ, he is a new creature (2 Corinthians 5:17). Obviously, it’s not our physical body that changes and becomes new, but our spirit.

    Please be careful when condemning preachers just because you do not understand what they are teaching.

    May God grant all of us wisdom and humility

  32. Laura,

    I understand completely what Creflo Dollar teaches and it is hardly biblical. Was Jesus born again? Did Jesus suffer in hell for our sins? Our we “little gods”?

    This is just a sampling of his “teachings”.

  33. Hey Laura,

    Thank you for your comments and I thank God for Him having healed you of cancer; that is something to truly praise God about, without question.

    I would just like to say few things here in explanation of a couple of things.

    You say this to me:

    “Please be careful when condemning preachers just because you do not understand what they are teaching.”

    Simply put here, you are quite mistaken Laura about me not understanding for the very reason I say the things I say about these types of men and women is precisely because I do understand exactly what they teach and because of that it is not I per se who is condemning them for they are condemned by what they say and men like Phil or me, or whoever, are merely pointing this truth out as it is already stated in God’s Word, like here for example.

    “10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
    11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.” Titus 3: 10-11.

    One of the major problems with heresy being taught in the church of Jesus Christ today is people with an attitude like you which is basically along the lines of, “oh well, let God take care of what is wrong with them, let’s just focus on the positive”. The mistake here, or one of them at least is the misconception that pointing out heresy and heretics is “negative” when it is not simply because the truth is always positive regardless of who it offends.

    Pointing out these things is commanded in Scripture and those who fail to do it are being disobedient to God and His Word and they are the ones who do not understand the Scriptures as you accuse me of saying here, “I have read some of the teachings you are condemning, and clearly, you don’t know the Scriptures as well as you may think.”

    “17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
    18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” Rom. 16:17-18.

    Nevertheless, I would have to agree with Phil here insofar as not believing in “healers” per se, and that God certainly can and does heal people today and you apparently are a wonderful example of just such a healing. And although I do not believe that there is anyone today, such as those on TBN or Daystar, wherever, who claim the gift of healing that is also not to say that if God chooses to heal a person through the laying on of hands according to James 5:14 then by all means His will be done.

    What you mention here Laura:

    “49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.
    50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.” Luke 9:49-50.

    And then you say this about it:

    “Jesus never stopped anyone from using his name. Why should we?”

    Here Laura, you show that, “clearly, you don’t know the Scriptures as well as you may think”, for this one who was not among the Apostles here who was nevertheless “using his name” was not using His name for his own profit, was not teaching falsely concerning Christ, etc.

    Not only that Laura but Jesus explicitly states why he said “Forbid him not”. And why was this? It was because Jesus knew and therefore said, “for he that is not against us is for us.”

    You are clearly taking these 2 verses from Luke 9 out of context and misapplying them for this has nothing to do with the subject at hand, nothing whatsoever Laura.

    Furthermore here Laura, I am not foolish enough to think that I am going to stop these false-teachers from “using his name”. But, thank my Lord Jesus Christ, I am wise enough by the grace of God, thereby having the mind of Christ due to being regenerated and receiving His Spirit, therefore in obedience to and love for God and His people, to warn people about those who use the name of Christ for their own worldly gain because their god is their belly and who because of that mind earthly things and teach others to do the same teaching covetousness for faith the way they do.

    Then you say:

    “Jesus said, “do not forbid them . . .” so if we do, we are disobeying a direct command”.

    Since I’ve already shown that you have taken this Luke 9:49-50 out of context thereby misapplying it, then it only follows naturally that your “so if we do, we are disobeying a direct command”, has no basis.

    So what do we have here Laura; what have you done? Basically, you have attempted to build a case against me on something that has absolutely nothing to do with the situation and this by one who is telling me things like this:

    “Please be careful when condemning preachers just because you do not understand what they are teaching.”


    “I have read some of the teachings you are condemning, and clearly, you don’t know the Scriptures as well as you may think.”

    With all due respect here to you here Laura, but before you tell me something like, “you don’t know the Scriptures as well as you may think”. I will tell you bluntly here Laura, I take what you said very personal simply because the work that I do in and for the Lord, in the work of apologetics, I take extremely personal and serious.

    You made a charge against me, which is fine with me for the last thing I want to do is speak for God if I am not actually doing it according to His Word. I am not in the least afraid of being challenged concerning the things I write, in fact I fully expect it to happen most of the time. But, you must show me where I have spoken against God’s Word, which of course I know you think you did, but of which I have showed that you completely failed to do simply by taking a “proper” look at Luke 9:49-50 that you tried to use against me. My advice to you is to make sure you build your own case on a valid Biblical principle as opposed to just revealing your faulty grasp of Scripture as you demonstrated with Luke 9:49-50.

    More to the point here Laura, when you, and others like you, defend these types of people, it is you and them who “are disobeying a direct command” for the Scriptures are replete with commands to the regenerated with the mind of Christ to thereby earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

    When you get the likes of a heretic like Creflo Dollar teaching that it is the fruit of a regenerated human spirit that Galatians 5 speaks of concerning the “fruit of the Spirit”, rather than that fruit being the fruit of God’s Holy Spirit, and then people defending such a thing? It shows me one thing very clearly, Satan is doing his job well when he, i.e. Satan via Creflo, can take the work of God’s Spirit, attribute it to man’s spirit, and then have people defend it. This is little more than another way of saying the serpent’s lie to Eve in Eden of “ye shall be as gods [God]”.

    What you said is true Laura, we must yield to the Spirit of God so that the fruit of the Holy Spirit, which is the Holy Spirit’s work, can be manifested through the regenerated child of God. There’s one problem with what you say though, it was not the point Creflo was making.

    Another common mistake you make here along with many others is this. You seem to think that because these heretics speak some truth then they can’t be all bad. You are wrong for a heretic is not really “all bad” per se for it’s like the old example used of “rat-poison” being like 98% wholesome food and only 2% actually being poisonous. But what happens when the rat eats it Laura?

    Here’s one important thing about false-teachers Laura. What do you think a wolf in sheep’s clothing looks like anyway? They look like a sheep Laura.

    Also, you make the mistake of thinking that because someone may lead another to Christ that they are not all that bad. God can use who ever and by whatever means He wants to accomplish His purposes Laura, but that by no means negates what the Scriptures tell the Christian about pointing out those who teach falsely.

    God’s means are in His hands but His Word is in our hands.

    I have heard a story about a Muslim woman who read the name “Isa” (Jesus) in the Koran and from that the Lord used it however he did to make her Christian. With your mindset then, since God used “Isa” from the Koran with this woman, perhaps we should not expose the Koran for the blasphemy that it is either eh? This writer begs to differ.

    With all this said Laura, I encourage you to study the Scriptures to show yourself approved unto God so that you will be a workman who needs not to be ashamed by making a faulty case by taking a text out of it’s proper context and misapplying it for a defense for that which is in truth Biblically indefensible.

    Again, as I opened with, in closing now, I am thrilled to hear, and I magnify the Lord for how the Lord healed you Laura, you have been truly blessed by Him in that. Amen.

    A Christian,
    Timothy J. Bortner

    Phil: Thanks Timothy for that outstanding post! If you would ever like to guest blog here, hit me up at theology.today@gmail.com.

  34. Hey Phil,

    Thank you for your generous offer here.

    By the way Phil, what does it mean to “guest blog”? Heh-heh, as you can see by that question, I’m not all that computer literate and am not really familiar with that term.


    Phil: Write a post, send it to me via email, and I will publish it. Pretty simple stuff. Email me at theology.today@gmail.com.

  35. Hey Phil,

    Oh, okay, that is simple enough; you mean like write my own topic or something, gotcha.

    I will keep it in mind and thanks again.


    Phil: I hope you do and yes, whatever you like.

  36. Hey Everyone,

    I want to just throw something else out here for those who defend the like’s of a Creflo Dollar.

    The other week I was watching him on TBN talking about marriage.

    Here’s what this supposed “man of God” had to say when it came to sex.

    He said that when two married Christians have sex they are having sex with Jesus because they are members of His body.

    My question is; where praytell, implicit or explicit, is this taught in Scripture?

    Any comments here to defend Creflo’s “revelation” about the Christian’s marriage bed?

    A Christian,
    Timothy J. Bortner

  37. Hey Timothy,

    For someone who doesn’t like Creflo Dollar, you sure do listen to him a lot, even more than i do. As for me, when I listen to any preacher and believe they are not of God, I won’t even listen to them at all. I change the channel as soon as i see them, but for some strange reason, instead of listening to those you believe will build you up, you rather listen to those you condemn. why?

    Sex with Jesus???? That’s obviously warped thinking by whoever said it.

  38. Hey Laura,

    I hope this finds you well. Myself, I have had the worst case of virus yet in my 52 years here this week. I can’t ever remember being this sick in my life, heh-heh, but I think that the worst of it is over, at least I’m praying it is heh-heh.

    A good question indeed here that you ask:

    “but for some strange reason, instead of listening to those you believe will build you up, you rather listen to those you condemn. why?”

    The answer is quite simple really. The work that I do in the Lord is apologetic in nature, i.e. I am one who earnestly contends for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints, as told to do in Jude 3 et al.

    Therefore, I must know what I am talking about before I talk about it. I want the truth of God’s Word to be known and even though I hate the teachings of a heretic, of any sort, at the same time I do not want to misrepresent anyone either.

    “128 Therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right; and I hate every false way.” Ps. 119:128.

    So, to know what they teach then of course I have to listen to them, read their books at times, do research on-line, etc.

    Above all else though I study God’s Word diligently. My wife figured that I study at least as many hours a week as I work at my job as a printer, which is 40 hrs. plus at times and I have been like this for many years waking up at 2 or 3 o’clock in the morning to study before going to work and then a few more hours after work and generally about 10-12 hours on most Saturdays and Sundays, even up to 18-20 hrs. at times. I find it nothing but a pleasure and joy to do so and consider myself quite blessed to be have been called of and gifted of God so.

    I didn’t ask for this vocation it just seems to haven fallen to me. As the years have gone by this is simply what the Lord has given me to do, it just comes naturally.

    I always, from the very beginning of my regeneration, seemed to be the guy who said “well if the Bible says this then why are you saying that?”, when mostly everybody else was saying “amen”.

    I was an “apologist” long before I even heard of the word aplologist, I just didn’t know that that was what I was doing.

    It just seemed like I had a “knack” so to speak, for recognizing false-teaching of all sorts. Now, of course, I realize it is “discernment” that I have.

    Insofar as why don’t I listen to those who edify me more than those who don’t goes?

    First you assume falsely that this is what I do for I read the Bible incessantly and there is no greater edification for the Bible is the only true theology. I have never been one to read much that others have written. I was never big on commentaries and such although I will use one on occasion but that is rare.

    This attitude is simply because I believe what God’s Word says and that being that the Christian has the anointing of the Holy Spirit to teach them what God’s Word means and this is not to say that I haven’t learned from others, but it is to say that my main source of the knowledge of the Lord has always been His Word.

    One of my most oft prayed prayers has always been from the very first this here from Eph. 1:17-18.

    “17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

    18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,”

    The Lord has even given me the grace to learn how to read N.T. Greek on my own, and this with me having only a 6th grade education. I’m no scholar mind you, don’t claim to be one, but I can sit down and read my Textus Receptus and with a Greek lexicon, when needed, I’m happy enough.

    The Lord has truly blessed me in these things, I suppose maybe because I was uneducated enough to believe His Word, heh-heh.

    It’s funny though, I was an extremely troubled youth, a drunk, a drug addict, LSD, uppers & downers, methamphetimine and cocaine intravenously used, sniffing glue for like 6 years and if I didn’t take 1,000 LSD trips in the late 60’s and early 70’s then I didn’t take it once and that is no exaggeration at all.

    I spent about 6 years total in prison for various crimes and started going to jail at around the age of 10 or so. I even got born-again in a prison cell, that was July 19th 1978. Just my life in general is a miracle.

    But, back to the “funny” part. When I was young and they were trying to figure out why I was having all these problems they gave me a test, I think it was called the “IOWA” test or something if I remember right. Anyway the one thing the test revealed was that they had no test that could gauge my reading capabilities, I was off the charts including all adult levels, I just never applied myself back then.

    But know I see that the Lord gave me that gift of “reading” so He could use me the way He does here now so many years later.

    Welp Laura, I trust this will answer your question and perhaps give you a little insight into what I do and how the Lord has called me.

    I am a miracle of God’s love and grace, that’s all, I’m just doing what comes natural to me now in the Lord.

    A Christian,
    Timothy J. Bortner

  39. Hi Tim,

    Thanks for the elaborate response. First of all, I am extremely excited for you and I give glory to God for the wonderful things He has done in your life and continues to do. I also pray that you remain in health.

    I guess I have a idea of what you are trying to do. I guess you and I have different callings. Mine is to help people receive the truth and accept what the Lord has freely given. I focus mainly on what the bible teaches and don’t give any attention at all to those doing it wrongly for whatever reason and when people know the truth, they can discern.

    I am a nurse, and after my healing, I shared the word with a lot of my colleagues and patients who knew I was off sick due to terminal illness and a lot of them accepted the Truth and had miraculous healing through the power in the Word.

    In a nutshell, mine is to point towards the finished work of Christ and yours as you put it is apologetics. I respect your calling and pray that God will continue to give you wisdom to do it His way.

    God bless you

  40. Hey Laura,

    I hope this finds you well and God bless you too.

    I myself am feeling a lot better, thank you, just a slight fever last night and now I’m praying that that was the last of it.

    Okay then, you say:

    “I guess you and I have different callings. Mine is to help people receive the truth and accept what the Lord has freely given.”

    You sum it up quite well with that.

    One difference that I can see from what you say is that you are perhaps focused more on evangelism if I read you right; of course I do that too. But, what I do is directed more toward the Body of Christ, i.e. the already saved who are not discerning properly for whatever reason. Usually two main reasons. First, Christians do not study God’s Word as they ought.

    And secondly, people have a tendency to pick certain men/women and listen to them because they are called “doctor” or whatever and because of their supposed “high rank” think that they must know what they are talking about. Plus a false-teacher “tickles” one’s ears and people love that because it’s what they want to hear.

    I tell people that if their “Christianity” consists of what’s been going on for the past 50 years or so, then they are getting a very weak Christianity if they’re getting it at all. Stick with the Bible, we can’t possibly go astray if we do for God’s Word is the only guarantee of that.

    I always say, if the believer would just study God’s Word and follow it, I’d be out of work simply because the false-teachers would be out of work, heh-heh. The Lord would have to give me a different vocation.

    But, really, if one thinks about it, all I am is a teacher of God’s Word. The problem today is that there are so many things that are being falsely taught as God’s Word that when those who have “erred” thereby then hear the truth of God’s Word they think that it is the lie, or that the one speaking it is just being argumenitive and disive.

    “20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

    21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.” 1 Tim. 6:20-21.

    The “science” here is the Greek “gnosis”, i.e. knowledge. And it is the “opposition” (the opposite), i.e. “antithesis” (our English “antithesis” is actually just this Greek word transliterated) in the Greek, which is “falsely so called” which is literally in the Greek pseudo-named, i.e. “falsely named”.

    In other words, putting all of this together then, it is knowledge that is the antithesis of the true knowledge of God that is falsely naming itself the true knowledge of God that many are erring in concerning the faith.

    This false “Edenic-knowledge” is what entered the earth realm through Adam’s disobedience and of which false-knowledge adorns what the Bible calls the “world” that Satan is presently the god of. The “world (i.e. Satan’s system here now adorning the earth and elsewhere in the spiritual realm)” is Satan’s domain even though the “earth” is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof.
    Understand Laura?

    There’s a lot to this Laura, but I have found that Gnosticism (i.e. the religion of “gnosis” or knowledge), having studied it for many years, lies at the root of just about all, if not all false-teaching in one way or another. Not just that which has entered the Church but also in other things such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, etc.

    All this “gnosis (knowledge)” is what entered in Eden with the rebellion of Adam’s eating of the what? The tree of the “gnosis” of good and evil”.

    I believe that if one understands “Gnosticism” then one will understand false-teaching.

    I don’t know if you have ever heard of Gnosticism, but the long and short of it, historically speaking that is, is that Gnosticism in one form or another was very prevalent in the first few centuries of the Church. Many think that it has pretty much faded out or they relegate it to what has been dubbed in more recent decades the “New Age Movement”. The NAM is certainly Gnostic but is by no means limited to that for it adorns the entire earth at present and has since the Fall in Eden. Most people though, including Christians, just do not realize this.

    So, you’re a nurse eh? Interesting, you are a caregiver like my wife. Anne, my wife, works with brain injury people and has for about 10 years now. They are high functional, relatively speaking, but can still not be entirely on their own.

    Her company goes into an apartment complex and rents maybe 20 apartments say. Each client has his/her own apartment etc., and my wife hands out meds, counsels, take’s them to their doctor’s appointments, or even food shopping, whatever.

    Back through the 80’s & early 90’s she was a missionary for like 14 years traveling around the US and Mexico establishing Christian re-hab centers for drunks and addicts of all types. The place she worked for was called “Mission Teens Inc.” and has been around since the late 60’s and basically came out of the “Jesus People Movement”. If you are interested in it you can just “Google” them.

    Nevertheless, yea right, I’ll bet being a nurse who got healed so dramatically like you did was a real “door-opener”, so to speak, which gave/gives you some real opportunities to minister to people. That is great Laura, may the Lord continue to bless you in that.

    Welp Laura, thank you for your reply and thank you for sincerely seeking the Lord to understand what I am trying to do along with those like Phil here and other’s, whoever, wherever. There’s not too many people like you out there insofar as trying to understand another’s calling. I sincerely commend you for that.

    A lot of people just think that if you are not doing what they are doing the way they are doing it then you can’t being doing the work of the Lord, which of course we both know is foolishness and I would also have to say quite highminded too.

    “13For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

    14For the body is not one member, but many.

    15If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

    16And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

    17If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?

    18But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.

    19And if they were all one member, where were the body?

    20But now are they many members, yet but one body.

    21And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.” 1 Cor. 12:13-21.

    God bless you Laura,

  41. hey Tim,

    I trust you are well and recovered from the intrusion. I agree with what you said above. Sorry I misunderstood you earlier. I guess we learn new things everyday. It’s interesting that your wife does a similar job to mine. It’s really rewarding giving care.

    I’ve been very busy with workshops on praise and worship etc. Keep up the good work and God bless you and your family.


  42. I am happy to see all of those that are willing to stand up and speak the truth against this blasphemous drivel that has started this website. Most times websites like these are started by people who are driven and serve the adversary. 2nd Peter 2:1-3 describes the owner and moderator of this website as well as it describes the ones that he speaks against. I find it always amazing that people like this moderator always harp on and hold tight to the portion of these preachers that speak on sowing. Pastor Siddiki speaks on much more than just sowing. As to his speaking of Elijah and a car, again this is taken out of context. He spoke in the present and past time using the story of Elijah to press his point. Unfortunately, the moderator of this site is bent on distorting the truth and skewing the views for his own benefits. So now, is the moderator of this site any different than those that he speaks about? Shall the pot call the kettle black? I feel sorry for the misguided woman that has taken this moderator’s words as truth. My encouragement to you, my sister, is that you read the word for yourself. That you develop a RELATIONSHIP with God and not a “feel good-guidance” with Pastors. Regardless of what these Pastor’s say or do, you and YOU alone are responsible for your relationship and daily walk in faith with God. (Romans 9:32 Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the “stumbling stone.”) For when you rely on the words and works of others to define your faith and your relationship with God, you will always fall short.

    Phil: Hi Naima, welcome to Theology Today! Thanks for the comment…I haven’t had this type of knee jerk reaction in a LONG while! You made my day!!!!!!!

  43. Hey Laura,

    How’s it going? I hope this finds you well in the Lord.

    No problem about the misunderstanding. Like I said, I am thankful that you took the time to see where I am coming from Biblically. Unfortunately most people don’t do that for they will get offended and not search the matter out.

    The question I always, or at least try to, ask myself when I hear something that offends me is this. Am I offended here because this word is a lie that discredits God’s Word; or am I offended because this word is the truth which might be discrediting my pet doctrine, thinking, whatever?

    Yea right, it is some coincidence that you and my wife are in the same work field. She has always done that type of thing in one way or the other, that’s her place in life in the Lord.

    Sorry for the late reply here too by the way, I have been pretty busy myself. I just got a new job and haven’t even started it yet. This week coming they are going to extend me their offer and as soon as we get that settled I’ll be giving my present employer my 2 weeks notice.

    I’m hoping my present employee will get mad at me and just tell me to finish out the day and not to come back anymore, heh-heh. Then I will be able to get in the new place quicker, the sooner the better as far as I’m concerned.

    I’m very excited here, let me tell you why, briefly.

    As I told you before I am a printer by trade. Well, this new place I’m going to work for does some 4.6B annually in sales and employs some 24,000 people nation wide. As you can see the place is enormous.

    The thing that has me really excited though is that I am getting in on a project, i.e. a system of printing that we are going to be pioneering. This type of printing has literally never been done before. It is a type of high-speed inkjet printing, all computerized, state of the art equipment.

    It is a 5M-dollar project thus far and we will be the only ones in the world doing it (that’s not an exaggeration either) and we have a contract that states that we are the only ones allowed to do it for an entire year. By then we will hopefully be the experts in the field and this has some really great possibilities for me in my field. Like I said, I’m really excited here, as you can see, heh-heh.

    It never ceases to amaze me at how the Lord comes through for us. We have been through some really rough times here the past year and half or so and have been blessed to have God’s sustaining grace. Now though, it seems that the Lord is going to let us experience His abundant grace in a different way.

    It’s a funny thing, the job I have had for the past 6 months, I don’t like much at all, heh-heh, but that is nevertheless where the Lord had me. The funny thing is that even though I don’t like my present job much, if it weren’t for some of the experience I gained there on a particular machine I more than likely would not have been hired for this new job.

    So, it was like the Lord had me in training for the past 6 months, and even though I didn’t like it, the Lord knew it was necessary for me for what He alone knew His plan for me down the road here now is.

    God, as I’m sure you know, is so good Laura; in fact the only good. Even when our patience is being tested like mine has been here with my present job, He was faithfully working it all out for my good according to His Word, exactly like Romans 8:28 tells us He will.

    Welp Laura, gonna go for now, God bless you Sister.

    A Christian,
    Timothy J. Bortner

  44. “…In all your getting, gain understanding”
    Don’t be despising people that God is using mightily. people are Getting saved in may countries around the world. you can’t be fighting people that are expanding the kingdom!!
    most people don’t like “faith preachers”because it’s never worked for them. apply these principles and they will only work.
    It’s truth. People like Dr Siddiki have put these laws and principles and have obtained results. do the same and find out.
    you causing too much mediocricy within Christianity because of your not seeking understanding…
    too quick to jugde on the basis of what you know and not coming with an open ear then seeking to gain understanding on what the bible says.
    people are dying,living in sickness, in poverty and immorality..
    is that God’s will??
    we on earth to establish his will as it is on heaven!
    None of that is heaven.
    Yet i do see Life,Health,wealth and Godliness in the Kingdom of heaven.
    if you not living in the fullness of that then strive for it!
    I DO.
    it’s absolutely biblical.
    you do realise that when you talk bad against Men of God anointed in their terrains, you’re putting yourself in danger.
    make sure you know what you’re talking realising that you’re not perfect and you don’t know everything.
    lets keep God first!

    Phil: Sadikki does follow a plan Rawk….he has people from all over the world sending him their hard earned money….which is foolproof and has nothing to do with God’s Word or salvation…

  45. You sound like you’re envious of this man of God. Perhaps you are the blasphemer and all those ungodly names you attribute to TBN and Sidiki really describe YOU. I caution you, however, that God has said He will not be mocked. YOU WILL REAP what you sow. (Promise) He also said that He is a Covenant God and will always have his covenant on His mind. (Promise) He also said when He established His Covenent that “I will bless them that bless you and CURSE them that Curse YOU.” (Promise) made to Abraham and his seed. Galatians 3:29 reveals that “if we are Christ’s we are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the PROMISE. If nothing else, believe the Word of God even if you do not understand it.. If you don’t, you are only cursing YOURSELF. because 2Corin1:20 says” All the PROMISES of God in HIM (Christ) are yea and amen……….” And in multiple places throughout old and new testament that “He watches over His word to perform it-(Joshua 1:8) and Isaiah 55:7-12 My thoughts are NOT your thoughts……… Read
    Mr. heretic, for it seems YOU are the one out of step with the WORD, not Mr. Sidiki. Besides, in Acts 5:38-39 you will find the following: “Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought. But if it be of God, you cannot overthrow it; lest haply you be found to fight against God” Soooooo
    I adjure you LEARN THE WORD, Get filled with the Holy Spirit and get understanding. Not to do so will only doom you not them.

  46. Hi Marie,

    Yes I am very envious of Sidikki…..

    How am I mocking God Marie? I’m actually mocking your favorite false teacher, the one you give your hard earned money to so he can get richer then you will ever be because his faith is much stronger then yours is…..of course he places all his faith in your inability to discern fact from fiction and he uses that knowledge to seperate you from your cash…..

    I guess I’m a heretic in your eyes and that’s perfectly fine with me but here’s a challenge for you. Go through each and every article on this site and demonstrate for me with Scriptures that I’m a heretic….after all its only fair because I can do that with wonderboy Sidikki and his false teachings….

    BTW: Thanks for stopping by to defend wonderboy….he sure doesn’t have either the courage or the Scriptural knowledge to do it for himself….

  47. Marie,

    One more thing…..

    Please show me with Scriptures where “sowing a seed” ever meant handing over money to the preacher…..can you do this?

  48. Let us stop it here. I was very close to Nasir and Anita. I flew with him in a small Cessna 421, sitting next to him on the way to many churches and speaking assignments. (The last time he flew that plane was in January of 2008!). Yes, he was a Moslem and the blood and spirit of his forefathers and fore forefathers is still flowing. Pray for him, it might turn him around and he would be able to walk in and with His love.

    Yes, he was a motivational speaker in his former business which faulted in Canada many years ago. Yes, he is good at it, today, just with another product. I never saw him writing anything. He might have given the skeleton, but the only book he ever published was finished by a ghostwriter. What did he read while we were flying — brochures about a new Cessna Citation.

    Now, don’t call me a whiner or my comments sour grapes because of a failed experience as consultant and independent contractor for Wisdom Ministries. The Lord pointed me to Jeremiah 23 last December and a fairly large group of ex-WMI-laborers, volunteers and supporters is coming together since then. Something is brewing out there. Please read:

    “An Insider View of Wisdom Ministries”

    ” … Imagine the newcomer invited by Wisdom Ministries expecting church services on Sunday mornings and arriving in front of closed doors. There are no services — not on Sundays nor on any other day of the week. There were talks about the importance of church services but nobody could be persuaded … to read more … please click on “http://www.moralwindows.org”

    Initially, we were drawn to Wisdom Ministries by the connection to Kenneth Copeland and the request to help building a “million dollar studio” (Nasir Siddiki calls himself publicly on TBN and in front of countless church congregations a “spiritual son” of Kenneth Copeland). While we are not able to evaluate the integrity and moral conduct of some of the “big-name” Ministries – our concern is with some of the smaller ones, the imitators.

    Those 30-minute televangelists can bring forth drops of spiritual truth by tapping into the river of wisdom flowing through biblical text, thus producing the false image of being a speaker of wisdom when they are actually only skilled mouthpieces. Multitudes of believers susceptible to skillfully constructed image and hypnotized by charisma and oratorical skill, will see them as great religious teachers.

    While thousands watching on TBN or listening to them at their churches can be duped for many years, the real nature and character is exposed inside their own walls. How do they treat their own people, the people closest to them? The genuine fiber of those beings is revealed by the exploits and the abuses of their work force, refilled by a never-ending flow of God-loving people drawn to them to serve and mesmerized by a name and public image.

    If He opened your eyes and you find yourself in a situation like that, don’t be discouraged, separate yourself but stand strong on what you have been taught, don’t leave your love walk. Be faithful in your relationship with God. Follow your calling, He will lead you. Love conquers all.

  49. I have to say I absolutely hate praise-a-thons, No amount of sowing is going to overide poor stewardship.

    I do think the ministers do a diservice to the listeners by not balancing the seed time and harvest teachings with basic scriptural financial intelligence.

  50. It amazes me how much I have been duped by these type of so- called men of God over the years.

    Jews stopped tithing in 70 AD when the temple was destroyed, yet for some reason they do not seem to be “cursed with a curse” as we are continually as Christians.

    We have Christ who came to redeem us from the curse of the law and the Jews have denied him, yet they still have God’s heart and favor.

    So are we to assume that the only way for us to remain in the grace of God is to follow men of God who are building and planting? Read your Bible friends.

    The word says that in the last days that men would be building and planting. As Christians we have always thought that this has meant the unbeliever. Last time I looked each one of these ministries feels lead to by God to build yet another facility despite that fact that churches have been going into foreclosure at record numbers recently.

    There is no meat in the storehouse of God because of $20,000 per month mortgage payments and $7,000 per month electric bills. Most people would admit that they could not go to their church to receive any sort of financial help for anything yet our preachers drive the best cars, wear Rollex watches and own their own jets. Their greed has blinded them to the simplicity of the gospel which is why most of their marriages are ending in divorce just like the world.

    This is ridiculous folks since Jesus would not have been involved with this type of Scribe, Pharisee and Saducee behavior. I choose not to follow hard after them. I follow hard after the Lord Jesus. He told me to study the scriptures and I do and the more I do the more I am amazed at how much these snake oil salesmen are really getting away with.

    The reason that many of them have to result to trickery and lies is because they do not know God truly and if we truly spent time with the Lord as Christians we would be able to spot them a mile away.

    Just because we are trusting that does not mean that we have to be stupid or completely gullible. I wait for the day when God reorganizes His church and we will meet again like they did in the Biblical days. There won’t be $30 million dollar facilities filled with Christians when God gets done. Most of the people you think are Christian’s are not and will happily receive the mark of the beast while following after these religious con men.

    Don’t believe me? Well what happened when Oprah converted more than 3 million people over to new agism with her New Earth classes?” Nothing.
    These so -called men of God did not cry aloud and spar not. They did not warn their congregations not to follow her. Why? Could it be that they did not want to offend their members and risk losing money? Sorry if that rubs you the wrong way but I call it like I see it and will not apologize for it.

    Before you reply back to me and say all kinds of mean spirited things, read your word and learn what it really says instead of what they tell you it says friend.

  51. Hey Phil & Everyone,

    It’s been a while since I’ve been here.

    I see we still have those who will defend the likes of a Saddiki, a Paula White, and a Copeland, etc., and unfortunately I don’t see that changing anytime too soon either.

    I have a Question for those “who earnestly contend for their farce”.

    If “divine health & wealth” are truly included in the redemption of the Cross just the same as eternal salvation is, then why is it that one has to continually claim this divine health & wealth gospel?

    In other words, when I got born-again by the grace of God through faith in His only begotten Son Jesus Christ and received the forgiveness of sins and eternal life it was an act, or confession as it were, of repentance and acceptance that took place “once” over 30 years ago by now that I don’t have to continually profess and claim by faith daily lest I lose it and become overtaken with eternal damnation again because I didn’t profess properly that day or believe rightly or strongly enough (I trust that all will understand the point I’m making here and that it has nothing to do with “antinomian cheap-grace”, so to speak, which is no grace at all. I know full well that we have to be faithful to the Lord according to His Word by the power of His Spirit but that is a different context all together than the one I am writing in at present).

    Nevertheless, this certainly being the case here, why then would one have to continually be professing and claiming “divine health & wealth” lest they get sick or are “stricken” with poverty? If divine health & wealth are truly an effect of the Cross, now for these mortal bodies, then shouldn’t divine health & wealth be just as solid of a one-time gift as eternal life is?

    In closing here. What I have written is not to say that I do not believe that God no longer heals or that He cannot bless one financially either for I have myself been a recipient of both at times and know others who have been as well.

    I hope all concerned understand the point I have made here.

    I am looking forward to reading someone, anyone who can soundly answer, i.e. Biblically of course, the question I have asked. Thank you in advance.

    A Christian,
    Timothy J. Bortner

  52. Without faith it is impossible to please God. We receive eternal life from God by faith. We receive the fullness of the Holy Spirit by faith. We receive the Baptism of the Spirit (for ministry of the gifts) by faith. We walk in the Spirit by faith. We talk to God by faith. We receive healing by faith. We receive everything by faith.

    Dr Siddiki talks about planting seeds, Jesus talked about planting seeds. You reap what you sow. Are you giving to the poor? Are you giving to Pastors that preach the word? Like Paul said. Are you providing for the widows and orphans. Then you will reap what you sow. Are you giving (sowing) your tithes and offerings to bring souls into the kingdom or are you wasting it on things of this world.

    What about the signs on earth. Can you read the signs. Are nations rising up against nations. Are there earthquakes in various places? Record numbers of tornadoes, record numbers of Hurricanes with magnitudes of destruction never heard of before. Are the financial markets faultering.

    Do you think America can kill 48 million babies and not come under the wrath of God. Wake up people !!!!!

    Instead of arguing with each other over interpretation of scriptures, shouldn’t we be preparing for the Lords return????

    Instead of trying to find fault with other people we should be preparing for the Lords return.

    Prepare Ye The Way of The Lord. He is coming quickly !!!! He stands at the door. Are you ready to face Him. Does He know you, or will you be cast out into outer darkness. Is your Father God or are you children of the Devil.

    Who did Jesus have the most problem ???? The common people, the sinners or The Religous People. Are you religious or do you have a relationship with God.

  53. Hey,

    With all due respect here but I don’t know your name because you didn’t give it and I surely don’t know that you’re a prophet so I’m not going to call you that.

    Okay, this is not merely a matter of “arguing with each other over interpretation of scriptures”. It is a matter of false prophets who are leading many of God’s weaker people astray, not to mention robbing them blind.

    I take it that you are defending the likes of a Saddiki?

    If that is the case then why don’t you answer my question above about divine health and wealth being in the atonement?

    Thank you in advance.

    A Christian,
    Timothy J. Bortner

  54. When last did you ever give to anyone in need? And why did you do it?

    Phil: Just last nightbecause I felt like it….and you?

  55. God is Love, love covers a multitude of sin. Hearthis man,the church should cover her own, rather than criticize.

    I think d unbelievers a smater than u are, they cover their own why dont u do so.
    Without regrets this site is inspired by the devil, he is out to tear Gods kingdom, he his doing dis through Folks like u, but he cant succed.

    Here this man critics dont win prizes as in a football match only those involved recieve prizes. Listen listen critism makes u loose focus, pls find out what God called has cslled to u to accomplish here on earth, God didn’t call u to throw stones at his church. For the love of God, let this men be, if what they do is of God it will stand, if otherwise, it will sure crash. Pls walk in love, the God kind of love, did u see a place where God capitalized on peoples weaknesses. check out Heb 11 all the patriachs had faults but there faults were not mentioned don’t u think there is a reason 4 that? Love as God loves, not as u think u should,Love covers a multitude of sin. Pls refuse to be inspired by the devil, this site can be used for a cause much profitable and value adding than this. we are called to add value to human lives, u will agree with me all of this isn’t adding value to any bodies life. I love you, above all God loves you.

    Enjoy, spread the gospel and stop critizing other, if all of us spent our time criticizing what will happen to the gospel, there a multitudes yet unsaved, unreached it will be wonderfull if u left what u are doing and reach out to them in a greater measure.

    Lots of Love.

  56. Hi

    I was just surfing by as I saw Dr Nasir Siddiki for the first time last night and wanted to get some info. Of course, no matter WHO you look up, all the negative stuff naturally rises to the top. Nonetheless, I’ve only seen this man once.

    What occurs to me is what happens is that ministers/televangelists (like the ones mentioned here on this blog) take a simple principle of God and exaggerate and twist it to the point where it actually pushes people away who may actually benefit from knowing the principle.

    I think where many people get turned off with the “beggars” is because instead of simply explaining the principle of sowing a seed they always have to throw in there that the seed has to be sown to THEM rather than to your local church, for example. This naturally makes people suspicious.

    It’s God who multiplies the seed, so why does it have to be to THEM specifically to reap the harvest? Hmmm….this is what tends to make people cry “fraud, thief” and so on. I certainly don’t hear anyone in my congregation call the pastor a fraud or thief when we take up offerings, yet I know to some extent that what I give benefits him and his family. But he also doesn’t preach that all seeds have to go to HIM either.

    Now I have absolutely put into practice this principle and have seen first hand for myself that it works. But I did NOT send my money to any of the “beggars” but rather to my local church and local area missions that God has led me to. And yes indeed I did see my money multiply.

    I know the kingdom of God needs funding and churches have to pay the electric bills just like everybody else. Unfortunately because people have cut back on giving, our Pastor has even had to cut the salaries of the church employees and they weren’t making that much to begin with.

    Nevertheless, I am slow to talk against any proclaimed man of God as I simply may not have gotten a particular revelation yet or simply because they made a mistake in a particular teaching (as sometimes good preachers do) until I know absolutely positively from listening to their body of teachings that “they aren’t wrapped too tight.”

    I am familiar with many of the names mentioned on this site but I only see them here and there in passing, so I can’t speak on what they teach entirely because I only get snippets.

    I just pray that people don’t overlook a valuable principle because people on TV pervert it to make money.

    Be blessed.

  57. He was probably just giving you added insight into the situation, not changing the facts.

    Phil: Yea sure he was….like a used car salesmen….

  58. A thief knocks you in the head, and takes your money. Many of these “TBN faithful” don’t even need the knocking, they got that long ago. Its called brainwashed. These deceived and deceptive individuals have no idea of the fire they are playing with. They are ate up.

  59. Hello there,
    First time to this blog and new to the name Siddiki. I’ve never posted to blogs and hopefully this won’t be too long and/or offensive to anyone reading. I’ll just start with the aggreement that Saddiki and the likes of him are the phase teachers the bible warns us about. Just want to share a personnel story. A family member of mine has a small church, and they let me know Saddiki was coming to speak. I knew nothing of Saddiki so I started to do research, as I do with things that could posiblly impact my life. And what I found sent fear, chills and concern all over my spirit…”Dr. Nasir Siddiki is a prosperity teacher that teaches we should never pray ..”, was what I read. Last time I read the word of God he told me how to pray. Just two comments I want to make, first is to Laura. Laura I am so happy for you, that God chose to heal you. Let me tell you the flip side of your story. My mother, a Godly Woman, and there’s a difference between Godly and Christian, (anyone can call themselves and act like a christian, even Siddiki..)after she received Christ, some years later was diagnosed with cancer. She had the faith to be healed, and believed in the sowing of seed. She even watched Benny Hinn and sent him money. Well guess what,she died and guess what from,Cancer. So…, this family member that brought Siddiki to his church, told me to my face that the reason my mother died was because she did not have enough “faith”. However, little do you and people that believe this lie, realize, that my mother is healed in heaven and is home with her creator and Father whom set a masion aside for her simply because he loves her. I thank God that he has mercy on me, and that my faith was strong enough to substain me from the likes of these liers. You mentioned in one of your blogs that blogs like these scare new believers away, but on the flip side, it’s people like Siddiki that bring division amongst christians like us… the rest of the story goes like this, my family member that pastors this church, and has the Siddiki mentallity… has brought division among this family, and the fact is that they have no wealth, they have no love and they have no fruit…even with all the “seed money” they sow into TBN and those phase teachers. Now second thought to ponder… i do believe in the sowing of seed (money) and I do believe in reaping what you sow, however, this money that is being sowed into these TBN teachers, that’s where I question, If the Lord speaks to you and tells you to sow a seed, why not sow it into a local church, or a family that may be in need, or a widow, homeless person, there are so many other areas to sow into, and sowing does not always mean money, it can also be of your time, of your abilities, of anything that will edifiy the people that are in need. It is the sowing investment into the younger generation that so many are so afaid to even talk to or the sowing of standing with a marriage that’s falling apart. It can be the sowing of love and peace and grace and mercy…of unity. We chrisitians need to remember that we worship the same God, and that it’s unto God that we sow, not Saddiki, and the rest of his likes…

    May God Bless us all and have mercy on his people

  60. You dont have to believe, but i have proven that dr. siddiki’s principles do work. he wont put a gun to your ears or a knife to your throat for your money. keep your money but let others be free to exercise their faith.

  61. Hiya.
    I guess I’m missing your point. I like many of these ministries because they bring folks’ focus back to God, back to the Bible – in spite of themselves. I also understand that ministries run on money; therefore there must be a constant and effective financial appeal. Even Paul does this throughout the epistles. Most folks these days are savvy enough to sort this out and give money because they are genuinely interested in the book/dvd, etc being offered, or simply wish to support the ministry. Personally, I like Dr. Sidiki – he’s entertaining. And I do not sling around words like ‘heretic’ or ‘blasphemer.’ If I dislike a preacher’s slant, I simply don’t view or support him – God takes care of the weeding process himself. My view is that any successful minister (TV or otherwise) is most likely called and s/he speaks to a specific population according to what that population is willing to hear and able to handle. But, at the end of the day, these ministers are not saints – they are just sinners like the rest of us – walking out the path God has set before them the best way they know how.

    Phil: Hmmmm. These ministers don’t bring the focus on God…..they only want you to believe in a “God” that needs to be bribed in order to take care of His people…..they focus on a “God” that is only concerned about the here and now and not the hereafter…..they focus on a “God” that can’t do a thing without us activating our faith, which of course means to give money to the preacher….

    As far as who these shysters are called to preach to and what they could handle isn’t biblical….John the Baptist preached the same message to ALL whether they could handle it or not….Stephen preached the same message to ALL and wound up getting killed….Jesus preached the same message to ALL and wound up getting killed as well….and I can go on and on but I think you get the point.

    You know how ministers like Sidikki differ from the ones above? Sidikki is a beggar who only teaches about money….the ones above preached about repentence and the Kingdom being at hand…..big difference….

  62. Sidikki is a heretic just like all those other word-faith guys. I was watching him last night and he was selling this technique on how to “Access All Things”. This mostly involve taking Scripture out of context, making up heresy to support his point and offering these occult techniques to make God your personal Santa Claus.

    The problem with guys like these is that they don’t build faith but rather dish out sugar coated poison with their doctrine. The keep people focusing on carnal things and never present a proper view of God from the Scriptures. The whole counsel of God is shunned and hermeneutics have been flushed down the toilet with these guys. Their theology leads people not to Christ and His word, but to themselves and their own lustful desires.

    I pray these false teachers repent before it is too late.

  63. If people spend outrageous money in worldly useless things, why not donate to Ministries who at the least do something about preaching the gospel of JesusChrist. TBN spends millions in preaching the gospel around the world any the least we can do is collaborate. If you can’t donate, don’t do it. I don’t have much to give, so I don’t do it right now, but I would happily give them if I could, as I did in the past. It’s for The Lord Jesus my friends, that is why it is worth giving. Besides, “nothing you do for the Lord will go without recompense”
    Mark 9:41
    I tell you the truth, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to Christ will certainly not lose his reward.
    Mark 10:28-30 (New King James Version)
    28 Then Peter began to say to Him, “See, we have left all and followed You.”
    29 So Jesus answered and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife[a] or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel’s, 30 who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time—houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions—and in the age to come, eternal life.
    In these Biblical passages, we see that Jesus explained that we will receive reward for our contributions to the Gospel.
    That He doesn’t keep any reward that He promised to us, He gives it out to the ones who show love for Him.
    In regards to theology, nobody is perfect (denominations, theologians, etc) but TBN is amoung the truly good intentioned people of God, (preach JesusChrist) despite their imperfection. I used to think that way, (that they should not ask for money) but it is not wise to do so, I have meditated on the Scriptures. And yes, Jesus also said Luke 6:38 Give, and it will be given to you
    these words are IN RED

    Phil: Yes, we should give to those that are preaching the Gospel but how is TBN preaching the Gospel? I suggest that TBN and 99.9% of the programming on TBN promote another gospel…the gospel of gimme. Isn’t it amazing that Jesus and His disciples never taught “sow a seed to meet a need” yet Sadikki, White, Hinn, Parsley, Hagee, Duplantis, Copeland, Savelle etc all teach this? What makes these folks so special that they were given revelation knowledge that even Jesus didn’t posess?

    Here’s another thing for you to ponder….Why don’t the folks I mentioned above, rather then ask you to sow a seed into their ministries, sow a seed into yours? If these folks really believed they could get a 100 fold return on their money by sowing a seed why are they always asking for more money? Couldn’t they just sow a seed of their own money, get the 100 fold return from god they claim you’ll get and reach even more people? Hmmmm…..

  64. It only takes a true believer to know some or most of the posts right here were posted from the pit of hell. These preachers don’t force any body to give money. You only give if you are convinced by God to give. So why all the worries expressed here? If you don’t know God in person and don’t know how to hear from him, your giving is in vain. God wants you to give him your life first. If you have already done that, anything you give God will not be hard to do. And when you give God, you should expect to receive back in manifolds. Nobody can dispute that.

    Phil: The pits of hell eh? Who’s doing the tap dance with Scripture me or your hero Nassir? The preachers don’t force they coerce and trick silly people like you into believing their shuck and jive is scriptural. It isn’t. Sorry that you can’t tell the difference.

  65. I am so sick of Heretic Hunters i could puke..Ofcourse we have to weed out the good and bad..This problem today is very extreme and critical.. The gossip, complaining,, back stabbing, judging, tatle tales, bickering on and on is a waste of time usually.. I have seen all these pastors, preachers on TV in person, Books etc..THEY love Jesus just as YOU do..They are not all crooks and thieves..They believe they are OK..Some of these people like Paul and Jan Crouch have worked diligently for 35-40 years with low salaries…They need to be paid too..Anyway, I have too much to say and not enough room or time..I realize some of us are being deceived..These preachers seem to be into Faith and Prosperity teaching..What a mess…Check them out fuly B4 You tear them apart..I dont send them my money..I take care of Widows, orphans, the poor and hungary etc OH and dont forget ISRAEL for all you anti Sems..Most of the Evangel take oney from their books and tapes not the partners money..a $34 million jet is a bit much Benny..Also Paul and Jan have a $5 million home..YIKES

  66. Hi Connie,

    Jan and Paul Crouch have small salaries? They both take in well over 400,000 dollars a year in salary. That’s small to you? God sure must be blessing you eh Connie?

    These preachers don’t “seem” to be into WoF…they ARE the WoF movement.

    I don’t tear these guys apart Connie. I could though. I could say a LOT about some of these preachers, especially what I know FIRSTHAND from being around some of these people but I leave that alone.

    When was the last time you heard one of these folks NOT talk about money, specifically how you should give YOUR money to them so they can “bless” others? If the preachers on TBN really believed in a 100 fold return ask them to “sow” into my ministry instead of one of their buddies and see if it works…..ok?

  67. Sorry if this posts 2xs. First one disappeared!

    In the interest of brevity, I’ll submit mine as bullet points:

    * 10 years ago I was assulted. Lying on the sofa in abject misery, awaiting HIV test results & contemplating suicide, I flipped on the TV. For the first time ever, I saw Copeland. I had studied theology @ 2 Jesuit universities for 10 yrs. So I was immediately turned-off by Copeland’s demeanor, accent, teachings, etc. But, too depressed to move, I left it on anyway. As if he was speaking to me, he began to explain what “by His stripes I am healed” and “whatsoever you ask in My name you shall receive” and “He bore my infirmities” meant. I had never heard it that way before. I put all my focus on those interpretive teachings & praised God – No HIV! No more depression! I was born again & made new in Christ!

    * Over the last 10 years I’ve been diagnosed with cancer 4 times. I just keep standing on those teachings of Copeland & Hagen. No surgery. No chemo. No radiation. NO CANCER. Always disappears!

    * 4 years ago, beloved pet had surgery. Allergic to anesthesia. Near death. Blinded. Had seizures. Heartbroken, I got out the those teachings, now along with Creflo Dollar’s. Pet comepletly recovered. Feline neurologist (yes, they actually exist!) even said that he fully recovered his sight!

    * 5 months after that, my daughter was born paralyzed. (Not sure why the enemy keeps attacking our health – I know that illness is one of his lies because of the teachings of the televangelists). I grabbed & held onto Jesus like Jacob with the angel & I wouldn’t let go until her neurologist said she was 100% whole. BTW: she was “incurable”; the doc said it was only by prayer that she was healed.

    * Lost my job last May. We needed $12,000 to avoid a deterimental consequence for our family. Saw Siddiki on Tv for 1st time. His annointing is in business. I immediately recognized that in my spirit. Prayerfully pondered Siddiki’s teachings. In obedience to God’s Word, I made a sacrifice offering to my church. Got all $12,000 plus a second car & money for law school.

    * My husband is a Muslim. We are unevenly yoked. He’s a descendant of Ishmael & it shows. But praise God, he will listen to Siddiki on occasion. Siddiki has a voice in that community (a community who needs the Gospel, believe me from experience…)and that’s vital to spreading the Word.

    My point: Miracles are real. These guys taught me that. I never sent them any $$$; I tithe & offer to my local church. I have heard diverse of them – many times – advise their listeners to sow & press into whatever ministries have taught you & helped you in your walk of faith – not just into their own.

    On a final note: I sent Copeland an e-mail thanking them for a teaching that came at a divine right moment. A prayer counselor called me, prayed with me & sent me *FOR FREE* 4 DVDS on what to do in times of trouble. Another time, I called for prayer and they afterward sent me 3 CD’s on faith as a miracle-activating force – free of charge. So did Creflo Dollar: 4 CD’s on God’s Way. Another time, I wrote to Siddiki with 2 prayer requests & he sent me a DVD teaching for free. I NEVER REQUESTED ANY OF THEIR PRODUCTS. They just gave them to me. BTW: None of these CDs or DVDs mentioned money.

    We may be fooled sometimes, but God told us He won’t be deceived. God can separate the shaft from the wheat. OK, some preachers are probably charletans. Many more are probably just imperfect humans. Almost every hero of the Bible was fallible: Moses murdered, David murdered & adultered, Peter denied Jesus, Jonas refused to go to Ninevah, Solomon married foriegn women, Abraham hooked-up with Hagar, Lot had intercourse with own daughters (how drunk do ya have to be???) Jacob means “trickster” & he duped Esau, and Saul before he became Paul…Ugh!!! See my point? It appears to me that God has a soft-spot for weakness and uses it to His to demonstrate His glory. He can deliver His message thru ANYONE. Isn’t it delighful, exciting & humorous that He does this? I enjoy it so much more when it comes from an unlikely or unlikeable source – it glorifies His soveriegnty!!! I praise God daily that He used these men – whose rightousness is ONLY thru Christ anyway, not through their ownselves – to share with me His knowledge. God holds His Word above His name. The only perfect One to ever impart that Word is the Word made flesh, Jesus Himself.

    Thank you for caring so much about God’s kingdom as to open this forum in which we may all share. I truly pray that the Holy Spirit imparts upon us a revelation of the Word through these dialogues.


  68. Tim your attacks sound personal which is unfortunate. You have chosen to attack a teaching that was given during a fundraiser. By your own admission you have not read his book nor attended a conference. You state that if you were wrong someone from the ministry would correct you. Well I work with Dr Nasir and would be happy to correct you. Dr Nasir is a phenomenal man of God. He teaches in many areas of the bible not just finances. he would prefer to teach about the power, love, and healing character of God’s Word but is requested exclusively to teach on financial enpowerment. He does not solicit any church to accept his teaching. His teaching is 100% scriptual and I encourage you to attend a meeting near you. It is the incorrect teaching that God’s people should be poor or barely get by that is a bigger problem for the church. This is why thousands of churches each year ask Dr Nasir to come and teach biblical prosperity, in fact, Dr Nasir does not even teach prosperity he teaches stewardship which is an overriding principle God has established for us here on the earth. I encourage you to come to a meeting listen to what Dr Nasir teaches over a three day period and not just in one hour on a fund raising show and then post your thoughts. Be Blessed.

    Mike Ryan

  69. This message is for the owner of this blog- Besides being a critical spirit, I would like to know what else you do for the kingdom of God, is you ministry all about tearing down ministers or do you actually have something positive that impacts people, changes lives, challenges people to want to do more and become better.

    Have you been to africa, India, South America, Middle east to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ and feed the Hungry, You know what Dr Siddiki has, his message on debt free living so relevant everyone needs to hear it. If you are in debt you need to hear it, he teaches from the bible by the way.

    I guess you dont rejoice with everyone else for Dr Siddiki’s testimony you’d rather he was still a muslim and lost, now he is a Bold christian and clearly wiser than you are you and he is boldly proclaiming to the world the truth of God’s word on money and you dont like that. I THANK GOD FOR DR SIDDIKI the same way I thank God for Billy Graham or TD Jakes or Paula White etc..
    Trying looking at the plunk in your own eye first.

    My opinion is this blog is ridiculous, misleading and confusing. It is here to KILL STEAL AND DESTROY.

    cheers from sunny South Africa.

    I forgot to mention I thank God for Jan and Paul Crouch too am sure their reward is massive.

    • Hi Grace,

      I teach at a Seminary and have planted 5 home churches in the last 7 years. I witness daily to those that play at my tennis academy and have seen many decisions for Christ. Is that positive enough for you Grace?

      Sidikki’s message on debt free living isn’t biblical Grace.

      Ah, so it’s all about who’s wiser then whom is it? Sidikki can be wise as he’d like but wisdom won’t get you into the Kingdom nor will teaching unbiblical principles like Nasir Siddiki does.

      Thanks for your opinions of my blog. Tomorrow will be the 2nd anniversary of it’s existence. In fact I was going to shut it down until you commented. Now I see this blog needs to stay online.

      I’m quite certain Jan and Paul Crouch will reap massive rewards as well but I think you and I will probably disagree on what those rewards may be. Guess we’ll have to leave that up to Jesus eh Grace?

      BTW: Besides having a critical spirit and tearing down ministers what exactly is it that you do for the Kingdom Grace?

      Cheers from Sunny Corfu!


  70. Phil,
    I will pray for you and your ministry, praise God for his faithfulness. I hope in your walk while you preach/teach the Word no one pulls things out and disagrees, and says what you’re teaching is not biblical or accuses you of heresy or blasphemy.
    As a man of God how do you raise funds for your ministry? What scriptures do you use?
    If you have disagreements with Dr. Siddiki on this topic (which is so important for the growth of the Church) why not contact him instead? Is that not what you would want before someone writes something negative and hurful of you?
    We are ONE BODY, we should not be fighting but uniting. Contact a brother before calling him a blasphemer. This is your opportunity to heal a wound I believe the devil has made. Trust me, the enemy loves it when God’s children are in disagreement.

    In His love,
    Your sister in Christ

    • Rosa,

      Thank you.

      I work a fulltime job owning and operating a tennis academy and I teach at a seminary. That’s how I support my ministry Rosa. I don’t ask for money nor are there any Scriptures that I can find to support my asking anyone for money to further a personal ministry. God has seen that I have everything I need without my ever asking anyone including Him.

      As a former repentant WoF “minister” I can assure you that what Dr. Siddiki is teaching regarding finances isn’t biblical. As a matter of fact I believe, and Scripture backs me up that the majority of those within the WoF are teaching a false gospel from top to bottom.

      I attempted to contact him on multiple occassions and have yet to receive a reply. His own public words make him a blasphemer I’m merely pointing this out. I think you and I have a different view on what division is Rosa.


  71. There is a simple biblical truth that sifts through the wheat from the chaff….”by their fruits you will know them.” It is clear to ANY discerning born again believer that those who use the word of God for their own selfish purposes do so at their peril and they will be judged for it! What would these people preach about if you took the words ‘money’ and ‘seed’ out of their vocabulary? Not only do they speak a false gospel, they look false and have become the victims of their own greed and narcissism. How vile and repulsive!

  72. These word of faith pastors are nothing but false prophets. This is what Paul was talking about in Titus Chapter 1: 10-11.

    All I have to say to these false teachers is that if they don’t repent… they are going to burn in hell. I am not judging them… but the word of God is. Matthew Chapter 7:21-23

    They better stop playing with the word of God.

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