Should Perry Noble Resign?

Pastor Perry Noble, of New Spring Church, is on the hot seat, and rightly so. Apparently Noble’s staff decided rather then answer or even ignore a particular blogger, College Professor James Duncan, they set out to destroy this mans reputation and his family.

Reading what Mr. Duncan has been forced to endure by these thugs claiming to be Christians is heart wrenching. Having myself endured much of what Duncan has been forced to endure, my heart and prayers go out to him.

Noble, like many of the independents, don’t handle criticism very well and his disdain for bloggers like Duncan is public knowledge. Have a listen to this 5 minute clip and you can get a better appreciation for how Noble feels.

If you spend some time watching some of the other videos related to Noble, one common theme is evident; don’t you dare criticize him and don’t even think about questioning what he teaches. Sorta like a dictator huh?

Professor Duncan was interviewed by Chris Rosebrough here and here. The show contains many clips of Noble bagging on bloggers and is an interesting listen if you have the time.

While its admirable Noble fired the employee, he never once apologized for the terrorist tactics of those of his staff and sheep. A noble pastor would not only have apologized but resigned as he would have felt responsible for this mess as the shepherd. There are some who believe Noble’s constant put downs of those who disagree with him played a part in this sad situation.

Should Perry Noble resign?

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44 thoughts on “Should Perry Noble Resign?

  1. Should you not at least consider the fact that everything that Prof. Duncan has said is not factual? Time and again even the Professor states that he doesn’t know for sure. Three people in a church of 10,000 take exception with a church critic and cross the line. What does that have to do with Perry Noble?

    • LarryJohnson50,

      Hey man! You are still one of my all time favorite players. I remember your first practice at UNLV and still remember the charity golf and tennis events we used to play together in…..how ya been peachfuzz?

      Noble is off the wall LJ. Pastors are like coaches LJ. Even though the coach ain’t on the floor turning the ball over or chipping paint, at the end of the day he’s the one that takes all the heat because as the coach he’s responsible for the performance and conduct of his team, both on and off the floor.

      In this case LJ, the Chief Operating Officer knew all about the harassment and said nothing and most likely aided the harasser…..that ain’t good home slice.

      Throw in the fact Noble constantly talks about his critics (bloggers) in a derogatory fashion and it looks like Noble may have actually helped to fuel the situation. Again, that ain’t too cool.

      I’ll be talking all about this on this weeks podcast which I’ll try and do today and publish tomorrow morning my time.

      Flash

      PS: Tell Mase the next time he dunks on me I’m bringing a gun:-)

      • Actually Phil… Perry released those guilty party from his staff and told them they needed repentance. Perry even told the church about his having to let them go from the staff. He is unorthodox, but the love of Christ, the evil of Satan, and the paradise of Heaven are preached consistantly. May God bless you!

        • Hi GreG,

          Noble also preaches hatred for his critics and insults these same critics.

          Noble also hasn’t personally apologized to Mr. Duncan for this mess. Don’t you think he could at least apologize?

          Phil

  2. Just curious…..how many services have you attended at New Spring Church?

    I am a member and have been for quite some time. I have not experienced/witnessed the volatile behavior of church members or “sheep” as you call them. Nor have I sat through Perry publically criticizing bloggers.

    I must be missing something……

    • Powerful words here Andrea!! What I’m mostly hearing here is a bunch of haters taking it out on Perry for whatever reason… jealousy? pharisee-type mentalities? I pray that they will become aware of the darkness and poison in their hearts, that they may see just how ugly it is and want to change (drop their stones).

    • My question is have you actually listened to the very video you posted. He didn’t criticize bloggers, he stated that there are some and that they disagree sometimes, but they are not going to spend time arguing with them. His whole reasoning was that he is more concerned with people knowing JESUS than with knowing him, because he has no power to save anyone. How many thousands of people have come to know Jesus Christ. He openly says he is a man and doesn’t get it right every time. He says he let staff members go that went too far with responding to critics. Here YOU are openly criticizing him in a public blog…are you going to apologize to him for that? or demand that those who cross the line of slandering his name and the name of his family and church and flock apologize for what they have done and said? Just wondering if you hold the same standards on both sides.

    • Whitney,

      The noble thing to do here would be to apologize to Dr. Duncan. As a shepherd he’s responsible for the conduct of his sheep and while I compliment him on firing the employee I’m alarmed that he hasn’t at least apologized and try to make things right…..doesn’t that bother you?

      Please show me where Perry Noble has been slandered here or anywhere else and I will look into it….

      Phil

    • Hi CP,

      You are kidding right?

      Members of this man’s staff did major damage to this man PUBLICLY. Why? Because James Duncan had the audacity to publicly comment on the Nobles PUBLIC teachings. Galatians 6:1 doesn’t apply here either.

      Duncan TRIED to handle this privately but got the brush off. Have you taken that into consideration?

      The fact that Noble hasn’t even offered the man an apology shows the type of character he has. Sorry but your position needs a bit of work…..at least in this situation.

      Sorry,

      Phil

  3. I attended NewSpring yesterday for the first time. I was appalled. I felt like I was attending a rock concert. I went up the escalator and when I got to the top, there was actually a DJ playing 80’s music! I really really tried to keep an open mind even after that. We went into the main ballroom where the service was. The lights went down and the band comes out playing “Sweet Child o’ Mine” Yeah, I’m serious. During the service (where there is no actual preacher, just a drop down screen projecting Perry Noble’s to the different campuses). STOP CHANGING THE CHURCH FOR THE PEOPLE. CHANGE THE PEOPLE FOR THE CHURCH!! This is ridiculous. It’s a mockery of Christ. These are the wolves in sheep’s clothing we are warned about in Revelations. Perry Noble actually used the term “dirty tampons” over and over and over to hammer in his point that our good deeds are like “throwing dirty tampons at God” because in Romans it states “your good deeds are like filthy rags”. Perry went on to state that he is 100% sure he is going to heaven when he dies and we need to be 100% sure of that also. We are supposed to live HUMBLY and graciously hoping and praying that we will make it to God’s grace in heaven. We do not ever KNOW. Perry Noble is a “Pastor” only for the shock value he can receive and the controversy he can stir up. He just wants to see how famous he can get. It’s pathetic.

    • Wow, I never though I would see a person so wrong. I attended that same service for my first time also, and I loved how they REACHED out to other people to teach them about God. You cannot expect to reach out to people with the regular traditional church. You have to reach out in the way the people will understand and like. A nonbeliever will not be enthused to go to a boring church that only appeals to the older generation. Praying for You.

    • Hi,

      John MacArthur has this to say about churching the unchurched…..

      Churching the unchurched is an absolute fallacy – it is like purposing to let the tares in. It is absolutely bizarre to want to make unsaved people feel comfortable in a church. The church is not a building – the church is a group of worshiping, redeemed, and sanctified people among whom an unbeliever should feel either miserable, convicted and drawn to Christ, or else alienated and isolated. Only if the church hides its message and ceases to be what God designed the church to be, can it make an unbeliever comfortable.
      John MacArthur
      Water, M. (2000). The new encyclopedia of Christian quotations (208). Alresford, Hampshire: John Hunt Publishers Ltd.

      Considering what I’ve seen in the way of fruit from Noble’s church I’d say MacArthur is correct….it’s too bad Perry doesn’t get that and apparently neither do you……

      Take Care,

      Phil

    • First off… the reference is not in Romans. It’s Isaiah 64:6 to be exact. Secondly, the passage is actually talking about used menstrual clothes. He is actually Biblically accurate to say that. As far as Romans goes however, Romans 8:1 says that “there is now therefore, no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.” So we CAN (and should) have 100% confidence that God will do what He said He would. So yes, we CAN know.
      By the way: Jesus carried ENORMOUS shock value. The current day religious folk of His time couldn’t stand Him. People got offended and left Jesus ministry. As our pastor, our job is not to simply make you feel better. Sometimes, we have to lead our church outside our comfort-zone. The rest of your argument is senseless.
      Everyone keeps going on about Dr. Duncan. Why does Pastor Noble need to apologize to him? Did Perry Noble say those things? Is the person responsible NOT the person who said it?!? Since when do we as church leaders bear the guilt of the people under us?!? Is Duncan even a part of his church? Should I have to apologize to everyone who doesn’t like what my people say or do?
      If you think through it objectively, you’d realize that your assessments of Pastor Noble are foolish conclusions. The fact that none of you are going to change your mind is the exact reason why he doesn’t waste his time with you. He’s too busy leading a church to deal with the Pharisees who have a blog and chip on their shoulder.
      Since none of you can control him anyway, why don’t we all spend less time attacking a church and their pastor (eccentric though they may be) and evaluating our own hearts on the real issues that we can control.
      When you take potshots at a church, remember whose bride you’re picking on.

  4. Oh and I forgot to mention, the very first thing that was mentioned after the rock music was a verse about giving your wealth to your church and then the offering bowls were passed around while we were being told that we should be giving 10% of our income to the church and anything on top of that is an offering. That means that the average person at NewSpring should be giving 5 thousand + dollars a year to the church! at at 8 thousand people at the Anderson campus, 2 thousand or more at the Greenville campus, that right there is over 50 grand that “should be given” to this church every year! FOR WHAT??

    • I don’t think you can criticize Newspring Church or Perry Noble for asking its members to tithe. Every church I’ve ever been to has taken up tithes and offerings – it’s biblical. Check out Malachi 3:8-10.

  5. Hi Megan,
    Tithing was an Old Covenant law that is no longer valid. The Apostle Paul never taught “tithing” but instructed us to

    2Corinthians 9:5-6
    So I thought it necessary to urge the brothers to go on ahead to you and arrange in
    advance for the gift you have promised, so that it may be ready as a willing gift, not as an
    exaction. The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever
    sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.

    The word “exaction” is translated from the Greek word “pleonexia” which in this instance means “greedy desire to have more, covetousness, avarice”. If you are interested the following link contains a very good paper on “tithing”;

    http://pulpit-pimps.org/essays/tithing.pdf

    It’s an easy read and most importantly explains this far better than I can in a comments section on a blog!

    Thanks,

    Phil

    • If Jesus is now our example to follow, why would we ever think that the “standard” on giving has lessened?

  6. Not all NewSpring members are the same, as no two people are the same. Forgive those of us who have trespassed against you by following Perry’s guidance before seeking first our Father’s guidance. Despite our flaws, we love the same Christ that the rest of you love, and ultimately, our goal is to seek His kingdom first. The church we choose to serve within will no longer matter when we are all joined as one body in heaven.

    I want to remind all of you–those opposed to Perry and those speaking on his behalf–that we are ALL born with a sin nature. We will make mistakes. None of us are saved by good deeds, but by grace alone. If, in fact, Perry is a “wolf in sheep’s clothing,” he will have to answer to God. He does not, however, have to answer to us, as we too have sinned. So I ask you all–regardless of church affiliation–to set the example for others who may visit this site by rejoicing in the number of lives that are brought to Christ at NewSpring. I am one of them.

    Please don’t let personal preferences–such as music and wording choices–cheapen the remarkable work God is doing, even if you don’t necessarily care for the place in which He is doing it or the person through which He is working. The life you discourage from hearing a particular preacher or visiting a particular church may be the same life that would have been surrendered to Christ had they not been talked out of giving it a chance.

    Remember to be slow to speak, swift to listen, and slow to get angry. (James 1:19)

    I love NewSpring, but I love Christ more, and it hurts me to see one brother or sister in Christ defended at the expense of rejecting another.

  7. Hi everyone!

    Phil, are you related to James Duncan? You seem obsessed with the notion that Perry Noble must apologize to Mr. Duncan. The bottom line here, is that Perry Noble, James Duncan, you and I are human. Often times we “miss the mark.” Maybe Perry should apologize to James. But what he does – and the motives he operates in – have nothing to do with you and me. Instead, let us pray for our brothers Perry and James. Let the Holy Spirit do His job. Let go of your emotional and mental obsession to see your point proven right.

    As for MBGold, your comments come across as a religious legalistic view. Every local church has a different temperament, culture and attitude. No church community is perfect in all they do. Some churches have a “rock and roll” presentation and feel and other churches have a “Leave it to Beaver” presentation and feel. So what. The tithing and money part was already addressed. I agree it’s an Old Testament principle – but it’s not out of order for a church to challenge it’s members to follow that principle today. A church that is contemporary is doing things right. If you think of our American demographic pockets as missional fields, the church must reach out to the community like missionaries using cultural keys. Rock music in the American church is not out of order. But in all we do, Christ must be lifted up and glorified.

    Grace to all who love the Lord Jesus Christ.
    Ozy Alvarado

    • Hi Ozy,

      You said;

      Phil, are you related to James Duncan? You seem obsessed with the notion that Perry Noble must apologize to Mr. Duncan. The bottom line here, is that Perry Noble, James Duncan, you and I are human. Often times we “miss the mark.” Maybe Perry should apologize to James. But what he does – and the motives he operates in – have nothing to do with you and me. Instead, let us pray for our brothers Perry and James. Let the Holy Spirit do His job. Let go of your emotional and mental obsession to see your point proven right.

      Maybe Perry Noble should apologize? It’s interesting that Noble asked his flock to pray for everyone involved EXCEPT James Duncan. Don’t you find that a bit odd? I do.

      It’s interesting that you have done the very same thing you’ve accused me of…….that’s another thing Nobles defenders have a habit of doing. BTW please show me where I have judged Nobles motives.

      Why did you comment here Ozy? Why didn’t you just pray for me and let the Holy Spirit do His job rather than make fallacious charges against me? How did you find this site? Maybe it’s YOU who are emotional and mentally obsessed as I haven’t uttered a peep about this in months and would still be silent had you not commented here.

      Thanks,

      Phil

  8. Hey Friend,
    As a christian and fellow bloggger I find it very irratating to see people to attack other people for stuff that they dont really know if it is true or not. Take a step back and think if what your doing is right. Perry Noble tells it like it is, and doesent sugar coat anything, the way alot of other pastors do. Unless you meet Perry, and go on a sunday morning to see him preach, I dont think you can judge him, based on what you think you know. Praying for you.

    In Christ’s Love

  9. Phil wrote from John MacArthur:
    “Churching the unchurched is an absolute fallacy – it is like purposing to let the tares in. It is absolutely bizarre to want to make unsaved people feel comfortable in a church…”
    John MacArthur
    Water, M. (2000). The new encyclopedia of Christian quotations (208). Alresford, Hampshire: John Hunt Publishers Ltd.

    My comment: I believe the aim of many churches in seeking to be more inviting to the lost, is simply that (for most churches). Like missionaries in a foreign country, the American church is trying to reach American “entertained trained” unsaved folks. I don’t think (I hope not) the aim is simply to mix unsaved people with saved people. Thank God Jesus, is really the one in Control – of all things. In the end, he will sort out those that are tares and those that are wheat.

    Let’s pray for churches that are successfully drawing the unsaved. May they not water down the truth and preach it hard – like Perry Noble. (By the way, I’m really not a fan of Perry Noble. I’m a fan of who He talks about.)

    • Hi Ozy,

      You said;

      May they not water down the truth and preach it hard – like Perry Noble.

      I’ve heard Noble “preach” so I guess the question I have for you would be “what do you consider watered down truth” and what do you consider hard preaching? Guess that was 2 questions, huh?

      Thanks,

      Phil

  10. Phil, it’s amazing that YOU accuse Perry Noble of being unwilling to accept criticism, when you are obviously someone who punches back at anyone who disagrees with YOU! I also would like to know if you’re privy to all the facts in the Prof. Duncan situation, including what has gone on behind the scenes since then? Yeh, I thought so.

    • Hi Jack,

      “Anyone”? That’s funny. Too funny. Why don’t you show me some examples of when and how I’ve “punched back” at ANYONE who disagrees with me? Go ahead!

      Has Perry apologized to Dr. Noble yet? I didn’t think so. Those thugs terrorized Dr. Duncan AND his innocent family Jack. I don’t see any compassion coming from those of you who seem to support Noble. Why is that Jack?

      Now run off and make that list of ANYONE that I punch back who disagrees with me……

      Have a nice day Jack :-)

      Phil

  11. PHIL: “A noble pastor would not only have apologized but resigned as he would have felt responsible for this mess as the shepherd.”
    Me: The logic here is that if people in your church sin, then you can’t be the pastor? Is this idea of resigning over other people’s mistakes Biblical or is just what you want to happen?

    PHIL: “As a shepherd he’s responsible for the conduct of his sheep…”
    Me: Is this a Scriptural mandate or just your opinion?

    MBGold: “STOP CHANGING THE CHURCH FOR THE PEOPLE. CHANGE THE PEOPLE FOR THE CHURCH!! This is ridiculous. It’s a mockery of Christ.”
    Me: There was a big controversy at Jonathan Edwards’ church in the 1700’s about singing hymns. Everyone was upset because they weren’t the Psalms they had been singing. The Church has never and will never change. Local gatherings of Christians, however, have always been different and will always change. Stop viewing local churches as the temple and the Holy of Holies. They are not, and that viewpoint is unbiblical to say the least.

    MBGold: “These are the wolves in sheep’s clothing we are warned about in Revelations.”
    Me: No they’re not. And there is no “S” in Revelation.

    MBGold: “Perry Noble actually used the term “dirty tampons” over and over and over to hammer in his point that our good deeds are like “throwing dirty tampons at God” because in Romans it states “your good deeds are like filthy rags”.
    Me: The literal translation for the words “filthy rags” is “menstrual rags.” Noble is actually being more truthful by saying tampons than dirty towel.

    MBGold: “Perry went on to state that he is 100% sure he is going to heaven when he dies and we need to be 100% sure of that also. We are supposed to live HUMBLY and graciously hoping and praying that we will make it to God’s grace in heaven. We do not ever KNOW.”
    Me: The Bible is clear that we can and should know with certainty of our status before God. I pray that you find the same security.

    In Summary:
    I do not agree with everything Perry Noble does.
    I do think he should have apologized to Duncan.
    I don’t think using radical methods to reach the lost is sin.
    I do think this post is silly.
    I do think people should read their Bibles more.
    I don’t think very many of the folks writing in these blogs and comments actually care about the people and churches that they are discussing.

    • Hi Stuart,
      Thanks for weighing in on this silly post. How did you find this silly post? More importantly WHY did you find this silly post?

      You said;

      PHIL: “A noble pastor would not only have apologized but resigned as he would have felt responsible for this mess as the shepherd.”
      Me: The logic here is that if people in your church sin, then you can’t be the pastor? Is this idea of resigning over other people’s mistakes Biblical or is just what you want to happen?

      Nice try but no dice. This was a premeditated act to stop Dr. Duncan from criticizing Perry Noble and his Seeker Friendly church. Members of Noble’s staff knew about this yet didn’t try and stop it. Minimizing this as just “other people’s mistakes” doesn’t change that fact.

      PHIL: “As a shepherd he’s responsible for the conduct of his sheep…”
      Me: Is this a Scriptural mandate or just your opinion?

      Is this Scriptural? You bet it is!

      Acts 20:28
      Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.

      His job is to oversee his flock which includes wayward security guards as well as pastoral assistants. He failed and a family was terrorized because of that failure yet we don’t see the slightest bit of remorse from Noble or ANY of his staff. If he can’t pay attention to a handful of employees than what will stop the following from happening?

      Act 20:29-31
      I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. Therefore be alert, remembering that for three years I did not cease night or day to admonish everyone with tears.

      Noble can’t seem to keep his eye on his own handpicked staff who are in front of him daily so what makes you think he can protect his flock from fierce wolves……considering the tactics displayed by his staff and the shoot the messenger tactics of some within his flock I’d say the ferocious wolves have already taken over…..

      Phil

  12. To answer your question, I found this blog because I Googled “Perry Noble’s Clothes” because I think they’re ridiculous and he looks silly in them and I wanted to see if anyone else felt the same. The 3rd result was a page titled “Should Perry Noble Resign” and I hoped that someone had written about why he shouldn’t be the pastor because he wears button up shirts with graphics printed on them. So whatever you’re inferring about me finding your site is silly, just like what I was Googling was silly.

    PHIL: Nice try but no dice. This was a premeditated act to stop Dr. Duncan from criticizing Perry Noble and his Seeker Friendly church. Members of Noble’s staff knew about this yet didn’t try and stop it. Minimizing this as just “other people’s mistakes” doesn’t change that fact.
    ME: You didn’t answer my question. Where, in Scripture, is it required of a pastor to resign his position if someone on his staff or in his church sins?

    PHIL: Is this Scriptural? You bet it is!

    Acts 20:28
    Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.

    His job is to oversee his flock which includes wayward security guards as well as pastoral assistants. He failed and a family was terrorized because of that failure yet we don’t see the slightest bit of remorse from Noble or ANY of his staff. If he can’t pay attention to a handful of employees than what will stop the following from happening?

    Act 20:29-31
    I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. Therefore be alert, remembering that for three years I did not cease night or day to admonish everyone with tears.

    ME: I wholeheartedly agree that a pastor is to “keep watch” and “shepherd” his congregation. What I do not see in this passage is how the pastor should resign if someone gets hurt in his church by someone else in his church, even if they are on staff.

    And exactly how is a pastor supposed to carry out this duty? Is it by involving himself in every single issue that arises in the church? Should he allow himself to be taken away from the Word of God and from prayer? Every time someone sins in his church should he personally step in a clean up the mess? Or is that the job of the church as a whole?

    • Stuart,

      Dr. Duncan didn’t get “hurt” in Noble’s church. He was a critic.

      And exactly how is a pastor supposed to carry out this duty? Is it by involving himself in every single issue that arises in the church? Should he allow himself to be taken away from the Word of God and from prayer? Every time someone sins in his church should he personally step in a clean up the mess? Or is that the job of the church as a whole?

      Stuart, you and I are not going to agree here but here goes. This isn’t an “every issue that arises” deal but PAID employees of New Spring CHURCH terrorizing a critic. You don’t think the Pastor should be involved in every single issue but the police were involved. Don’t you think that’s a big deal?

      Anyhow, thanks for sharing.

      Phil

  13. Ha! You people are funny… by the way, over 700 people accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior over Easter Weekend (2011)… :D Don’t think anything else you crazy folks have to say really matters!

    • @Kat
      and you know that “over 700 people accepted Christ” because…..
      a) they went forward
      b) an announcement was made from the pulpit
      c) they have all signed up for a members class
      Is it reasonable (or even truthful) to make blanket statements about how many people were “saved”? Is it really necessary? Is it actual proof of something?

  14. Wow! That’s 30 minutes of my life I’ll never get back. Will Pastor Noble please apologize so Phil can get on with more meaningful things like, “What if the words of Jesus were printed in blue?”

    • Hey DC,

      How did you find this posting? This posting has been up nearly 2 years and if you had been paying any attention you would know I have said very little about Perry…..in fact thanks to you today was the first time I had even given any thought to Noble and his merry band of miscreants…….thanks for the reminder!

      Thanks for stopping by and reminding us of what a thoughtful caring Christian should look like….

      Phil

  15. I really wish people would remember that it’s not about us! It is about the unsaved!
    If we need to do something unusual to expand the kingdom, we should do it.
    The music is not for our pleasure but for His glory and worship. What could honor God with more glory than the lost being saved? If you go to a church because you like the music, you like the programs, you like the pastor, you like the kids ministry, you like the teaching, you like the parking, you like that everyone knows who you are….. Sounds like it’s all about YOU… Now who has it all twisted? We are called to expand the kingdom and if newspring is effective, then who are you against? Perry or God himself? Get over yourself and look at how many lives are being changed! Only God could do this!

  16. I find it ironic that you give Mr Noble a five minute clip while you give Mr Duncan a two hour podcast.
    What Mr Noble is saying is that he is called to preach the Gospel, and if what he does is working, and people are coming to know Christ, than what point does a critic have to argue about?
    Also, a person should not listen to a critic who is not calling them out because of love, which I do not think you are doing. That is what Paul did when he called out Peter. Besides, people screw up, they’re people. If everytime a person screwed up they quit or resigned than we as people would accomplish nothing, in an eternal or earthly standpoint.
    Besides, what proof do you have of Mr Duncan being terrorized by NewSpring Church, because according to the YouTube video, it doesn’t seem like Mr Noble would bother because of the mission God has called him to.

    • Hi Rob,

      I only published your comment because you took the time to write it….and it’s obvious that had you actually taken just as much time in actually learning some of the public information about this matter then you might not have said what you did……

      Question; Why was Newspring security guard Josh Maxwell fired? Here’s some help;

      http://www.pajamapages.com/how-do-you-ignore-this/

      You suffer from a common malady among the anonymous Rob……you speak authoritatively about things you know nothing about and lucky for you no one but you knows what an ass you’ve made of yourself :-)

      Have a nice day :-)

      Phil

      • I’m really quite shocked at how you speak to your subscribers let alone your brothers and sisters in Christ. I too, find it shameful that another Christian can terrorise another in the way that Dr Duncan was. But the lack of love you show in your posts, your aggressive manner and your pride do not reflect the glory of Christ.

        I am guilty of judging you here, and I repent of that but I really believe you should review this series of posts and look at what sort of witness you are providing. Because as a first time reader, I am really saddened at this reflection of Christianity.

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