But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his vomit,” and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in mire.” 2Peter 2:22
Jim Bakker has started over again, how be it on a smaller scale. His Heritage USA theme park was 4 square miles of property. He is now promoting “Morningside” which is about 600 acres on the Missouri side of the border with Arkansas (stinking up the area I live in). Heritage was a vacation theme park, Morningside sounds like an end-time sanctuary. On his daily show and website he promotes survival items like processed foods and flashlights (he missed the Y2K marketing opportunity due to legal problems). You can, if you hurry, buy a condo for anywhere between 80,000 and 350,000 dollars and the community has it’s own backup generators for power when the coming doom arrives. (source)
He has replaced Tammy Faye with Lori (eerily similar with less makeup) and has abandoned the “prosperity” message and replaced it with the “end is near” (Bakker is now 70 year old). Since he owes 6.1 million in back taxes, everything is in Lori’s name or one of his partners. Most of his supporters think he was wrongly prosecuted for fraud in the late 80’s, so this is not a real bright bunch of folks.
If Bakker’s sales figures can be believed ( why would anyone doubt him?), his end-time hiding place will fill up quickly and it will be the end of time for his followers finances. Maybe you can teach an old dog new tricks.
March 20, 2009 at 12:15 pm |
Hi Boyd,
If this Collings guy can be believed it looks like the stories about Jim being bi-sexual might be true;
http://collings-bakker.com/
Geesh….
March 20, 2009 at 8:50 pm |
The first time he fed off peoples fleshly wants and desires and now he’s going to feed off their fears.
imho – If people want an end time sanctuary, rest in Jesus and skip Morningside.
March 20, 2009 at 10:42 pm |
I believe Jim Bakker has truly repented and paid the price — God was too merciful to let Jim die in deception under PTL show (hence the exposure and discipline).
Now that he got a second from the God of second chances, I believe he is doing the right thing in sharing the Gospel. Nothing wrong with his present wife too! Give them the bebefit of the doubt. And hooray for Joyce Meyer: her eyes opened.
March 21, 2009 at 10:20 am |
Kevi Meru,
I think there are thousands of people who would argue that Bakker hasn’t paid the price for the millions they lost at Heritage. If you would like to read about real repentance check out Luke 19:8-9.
Preaching the gospel has nothing to do with creating a cult-like compound. Bakker said in a book he wrote in 1996(I Was Wrong) that he had never read the bible thru until he went to prison. Now he’s back to begging and marketing just like before. I would suggest he read the bible again.
April 6, 2009 at 5:24 am |
Boyd I was gravely dissappointed how Jim Baker and associates mismanaged Heritsge. My wife and I have
forgiven him just as God has forgiven us for our sins through Jesus Christ. Boyd I have at least 30 reasons and many details as to why Jim and Lori their 5 adopted unbelieveable kids and a staff that
you would love have returned to a ministry that is both dynamic,energetic and a refined albeit reformed christian outreach. We have a church in Florida but timeshared visiting Morningside at christ-
mas and met JIm ,his staffers,kids and members. Boyd this place is soooooo down to earth sooo oriented
to rallying kids to Christ, promoting great christian music and fun secular,great teachings and many
resouces. I warned Jim to get some sleep before the Christmas party (360 attendees ) He and Lori were
running themselves into the ground. Lori is one of the sweetest people I have ever known and even sent
me (an unemployed poor sucker) a personal card with her kids picture. Boyd go there check it out dude!! Something tells me your an ok guy just really ticked off. God Bless Brother!!!!
June 24, 2009 at 8:48 pm |
geez lady! wake up and smell the coffee. how many “buckets” of freeze dried food has Jim Bakker talked you into buying lately? his “end of the world” has put fear in a lot of sick and elderly people whom I’m sure are stocking up by sending their “love gifts”. geez i would love to sell you believers (probably gave into PTL too) and suckers a bridge I have.
March 25, 2009 at 12:31 am |
After reading the book “Prosperity And The Coming Apocalypse” by Bakker,I saw the truth that God revealed to him during his imprisonment about this present day “prosperity” and money loving doctrines,it was and is my hope and prayer that he will continue in the truth,not waiver nor compromise because his latter end could be worse than the first.This is frightening to me.
March 25, 2009 at 3:06 am |
Walter,
Wouldn’t it have been wonderful if Jim Bakker had come out of prison preaching and speaking against that false doctrine, after he saw the truth, instead of starting another “we love you” club. I agree it is frightening.
April 22, 2009 at 2:40 am |
In my opinion, the paradox of Jim Bakker and like ilk, can be summed up as follows:
Bakker is a dissassociative identity disordered individual. A D.I.D. person can say one thing with unbelievable honesty and candor, yet do the complete opposite of what he/she says with remarkable alacrity and efficiency… and have no conscience of such blatant and profound hypocrisy.
They serve “two” masters, but in reality, hate Christ because they are not capable of obedience to His Word or Commandments, and love Satan for the honor, riches and glory that Satan is able to bestow upon them for their service in deceiving gullible professing Christians who should be reading their Bible and be able to discern such people, instead of falling for glitzy “media blitzes.” Bible Preachers are not supposed to be “celebrities” but persecuted by the World, or “System,” for their advocacy of the truth.
This is also a fit explanation for all the rest of these “wolves” in sheep’s clothing
in the popular Christian church. Indeed, the “Church” is overran by such and the same D.I.D. people who are its leaders.
No wonder the popular Church is an unqualified mess. It is a good thing that the Real Church is a mystical organism that cannot be subverted by Satan and his System.
May 20, 2009 at 1:36 pm |
Stunned to see this con man back on tv doing the same things he did that landed him behind bars! He should still be in jail and not on TV scamming people!(How do you get a 45 year sentence reduced to 18, serve just 5?) Unbelievable! Morningside sounds like another (Heritage USA) debacle in-waiting. I cannot believe this guy. I’m amazed that these disgraced TV preachers just keep coming back to scam once again, enabled by supporters who, yes, obviously are not a bright bunch of folks. As mad as I get over these thieving tv preachers, I just shake my head at people who gladly hand over their money to them.
I guess if it makes them feel good to give to a thieving tv preacher, then so be it.
June 24, 2009 at 6:26 am |
this man Jim bakker needs to be stopped now before he gets away with it again no more jim no more free money for you boy!!!! and your crook wife you make me sick jim you need to be in jail I hope you get cought and this time when you do get caught I hope they trow away the key if anyone has any ideas to stop these people from ripping off people please email me hotstuff272000@yahoo.com I want to see him out of business!!!! Stop jim bakker now that crook!!!
June 26, 2009 at 6:38 am |
I absolutely could not believe it when I saw the new Jim Bakker show on tv and saw the “new Heritage” (as I call it). Why didn’t he just call it Heritage II??
As someone who lived in Charlotte, NC and walked through the devastation that Jim and Tammy left behind, I can tell you that unless you have seen firsthand what they did, you will never fully understand how horrific it is that he is doing it AGAIN!! The buildings on “Grace Street” in Morningside look just like “Main Street” in Heritage. Back in the 80s, Jim Bakker and Roe Messner (the builder of Heritage) needed funds to continue building and they oversold timeshares and sold timeshares to a new “Grand Tower” that was not even finished on the inside.
When I took a friend with me one day to see the horror that I discovered, they looked at it and said, “It’s as if I’m looking at the death of fun.” Everything that was once thriving and filled with fun and laughter was falling into a sad decay…..a very sad thing to see.
I just simply cannot believe that people are dumb enough to trust him again.
August 9, 2009 at 5:15 am |
I agree with the author of this article. This is horrible that he is using fear to get money from people. All you Bakker fans WAKE UP! His prime motivation is to make money. He states that the love of money is the root of all evil. If that is so, why does he spend his entire show trying to raise money. A few errors in Jim’s approach…first of all, he stated he would not return to TV again and he is back, Second, how convenient to use the end time as his platform. There are a lot of “bad” things that happen in the world ever since the beginning of time. It’s easy for anyone to lay claim to a “prophecy” that it was theirs and say the world is coming to an end.
What is he teaching these new kids he wants to teach televangelism. How to fleece the flock? That sounds like abuse to me. Not to mention the obvious copyright infringements. It’s hard for me to believe major movie studios gave Morningside permission to use their films to advertise doomsday food.
I’m sorry, I am a Christian but I do not see God in this AT ALL. Crying wolf to raise money doesnt help anyone but lining your own pocket. Why doesn’t he take all the food and feed the hungry or do something that shows a Christ-like character. Be the Salt of the earth. PRESERVE don’t DESTROY. PLEASE PLEASE invest your time and money with someone bringing love and not fear into the world. God help this man understand this. I have sent countless emails to him but he keeps doing it. Even his wife on the air says in a rather scolding manner at times “Honey, Honey”…can’t he get the message? GEEZ
August 10, 2009 at 1:36 am |
Jim Bakker does, what God has lead him to do. Probally more people have come to know Jesus through CBN, which Jim helped start, through Trinity Broadcasting, which Jim helped start, and through the continued broadcast of INSP which started with Jim and the PTL network. Morningside is a great place, I hope to visit one day. I watch the New Jim Bakker Show all the time. I’ve always supported Jim, he’s not the first person to make mistakes and won’t be the last. If you are a true Christian, you forgive his faults and look at all the good he has done. Jim and Lori are great, Keep up the good work!
August 12, 2009 at 5:33 pm |
Sounds blasphemous to claim Jim Bakker is doing what God told him to do. If his focus is on preparing people for the last days, then I am assuming he is asking people to save survival food for others and not themselves. Of course, I doubt if that is what this is all about anyway. Gotta raise that money to keep things going.
If these terrible things are happening or going to happen, maybe the logic should be that Christians need to work to make the world a better place, not hoard food for a catastrophe.
August 10, 2009 at 6:14 pm |
Larry,
God did not lead Jim Bakker to steal from people or appoint him as a money collector. I hope you see the light before your pocketbook does.
August 14, 2009 at 10:27 pm |
I sent the below letter in to President Obama as a matter of concern for our youth before I even realized that this was the one and the same Jim Baker from TBN. It is a sick way that they’re using our children. Anyone and everyone concerned about this situation should speak out and yell to whoever will listen. Try the President or First Lady, CPS, FBI and the Department of Education as well as your State officials. Everyone may want to take a closer look at the North Central Texas Council (NCTCOG) as possible partners to this crime against our future youth. I read a review about them that seemed to possibly tie them in.
Thank you,
Sadie
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Dear Mr. President,
I was watching our local public access here in Dallas (Dallas IMedia) this morning. 8/14/09,and was alarmed by a group called Morningside Masters.
They seem to be a cult like group that parades as a group to minority children by gathering them in from public schools schools using a “secular method” as they call it. It seems they are working under some plan to brainwash and use these children to to take in and build this new ministry to survive what they were claiming as the rapture. It doesn’t seem genuine or of God in any way. They were offering emergency survival kits for $1000 donations as if something bad was about to happen to the water system, and they don’t seem to have money or group effort support problems.
They are telling these children, mostly teens, that God has saved them by bringing them in to their care. I also suspect they may be based here in Texas but they claim to be taking in desperate young people from various states throughout the U.S.
One of the main gentleman’s names was Jim Bakker. There was a website for Billballinger.com(spelling??) They menitioned some past director of FEMA who was woking with them. They say they gather these teens and preteens through internet and cell phone use. When I searched the net, there was some reference to free masonery. Don’t know how relevant that is to you.
Somebody needs to check this out immediately. You have at your discretion every investigating and tracking capability. I am no expert on anything, but there must me a reason for me to have seen what I saw and feel the need to do something about it.
This is something that needs focus much more then any other issue on the table right now. These are our children. All of them. Above all, we have to protect our children. Please let me know what you find out. Please don’t ignore this situation. They seem to be training for what they claimed was to happen sometime within the month. I’m sorry I don’t have more detailed information. God be with you.
Thank you,
Sadie Abtahi
August 16, 2009 at 5:03 pm |
My parents bought 2000 meals from Jim bakkers Fear driven ministry and donated thousands. My parents are in there late 70s and need caregivers. They have abandoned there children, one being a Registered Nurse to support this criminal element. They have ruined our families lives and our parents will be broke after all they have given to this criminal
August 20, 2009 at 5:46 am |
You Know, people thought Noah was crazy too!
August 20, 2009 at 6:48 am |
Hi,
Wasn’t Noah commanded to build the ark by God? Do you think Jim Bakker was commanded by God to hawk flashlights and radios and whatever else he’s selling?
Phil
August 31, 2009 at 9:49 pm |
I have been watching the Jim and Lori Baker show broadcast out of Morningside since it began about two years ago. I have become more and more alarmed by what I see. Lori has now used her past experience with Masters Commission to raise funds with the help of her new husband to build what they call the new tabernacle, and school for morningside students. The cost of a one year tuition is $7,500. It seems that the teachers, or leaders for the students will be at least in part some of Jim Bakers old friends. I am sincerely worried about these young people and what their minds will be filled with, as Jim Baker constantly talks about the fact he will personally teach a class on Revalation each week. He also brags about the fact he has on staff a retired person from homeland security from the Bush administration. You can often see him on stage, or in the audience. Jim often talks about some of the things he will be teaching the children about, including how the Obama administration has changed so many federal agencies into Godless entities.
It is true that Jim and his wife get on stage every day and for at least 3/4 of the one hour show sell their products. Nearly all of the products they are selling have to do with the end times, swine flu epidemic, hurricanes, earthquakes, and what Jim Baker declares as prophecy he has recieved that tells him we are in the 6th trump of revalation. It seems he no longer believes in the Rapture, and often talks about how other pastors are wrong about this, and how we will all face the entire tribulation period. When not talking about all of these prophecies that God has told him, he has lately been bringing up another Pastor who I believe took over what was left of Heritage USA. This Pastor was one of the first to start the malicious rumor that the Obama health plan was in his words worse than Hitler himself. He, meaning the prophetic words from the new pastor at Heritage sent Jim Baker a letter that was explained on air a couple of weeks ago. Jim Baker reading from this letter tells the television audience that we all need to get ready for the end times, as he believes these prophetic words and the end times are coming fast do at least in part to the new government reforms, etc.
And then when I thought I had seen it all, last week Jim Baker once again trying to raise another $300,000 by selling freeze dried food to anyone he can scare used what I can only explain as deception on a grand scale. At several points during the broadcast on this particular day Jim Baker said that the devil was at work trying to destroy all of the good work they are doing. It was shortly after this that the screen would turn green and you could barely make out what you were seeing on the television. Mr. Baker said this was from the devil, and that Satan was messing with a switch board, or mixer and that this was definitely the devil trying to stop his broadcast. I nearly lost it at this point!! Pastor Baker went on to say that he was sure some of us out in t.v land were sure he was causing the screen to turn green. But then with a proud voice of reasurrance he said you know I would never do that. This man must be stopped!! And whats worse their are several other so called Christian shows that are at least as bad if not worse. Why is our government allowing this to happen? Especially when children are involved. Now within the next couple of weeks I’m sure at least a hundred or more children will arrive at Morningside for Masters Commission. While I do know that some of the work that Masters Commission does is admirable, I’m not sure at what cost to our chldrens future. And as for myself I know that no child of mine would ever be taught anything from Jim Baker.
December 30, 2009 at 11:46 pm |
I guess I’m another one of those “not real bright bright bunch”. “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”. I ask that to the people condemning this man, is your valley , so clean are your windows so clear. I have seen some of the work that this man has done and I have taken away my stone and joined this worthy cause. Some of you people speak as if you are clean as the driven snow. I can not do that , I have sinned in my life and I have wronged. How many time do you forgive lord? Seems that people who proclaim themselves to be Christians are just a facsimile writing their own heartless Gospel. Some of you even sound like the the same people who persecuted our Lord and Savior. I applaud Pastor Bakker and his wife Lori, may he live long and his work reach many. As for some of you Get God in your life
December 31, 2009 at 9:30 am |
Afri,
Just because we disagree with Jim Bakker doesn’t mean we think you aren’t too bright.
We are all sinners saved by grace alone through faith alone. We all freely admit we are sinners (except for Roderick Edwards of course)in need of a Savior.
What work does Jim Bakker do exactly?
Have you ever read his book “I was wrong” Afri? I have and it sits in my office. He claims the prosperity gospel was wrong yet he’s hosted on his show Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Paula White and others who teach that very message Bakker claims was wrong…..you see the concern?
Happy New Year Afri!
Phil