Joyce Meyer

Joyce Meyer

Joyce Meyer is one of the most well known Word of Faith Evangelists out there today. Her television show “Enjoying Everyday Life” is broadcast daily worldwide. She is also the author of over 70 books and has been named by Time Magazine as one of the 25 most influential evangelicals in America. I’d like to examine a few of her statements and teachings to demonstrate that she is not preaching the Word of God, but a different gospel.

Joyce Meyer claims that she is not a sinner (from the now unavailable tape “From the cross to the throne”). 

“I’m going to tell you something folks, I didn’t stop sinning until I finally got it through my thick head I wasn’t a sinner anymore. And the religious world thinks that’s heresy and they want to hang you for it. But the Bible says that I’m righteous and I can’t be righteous and be a sinner at the same time … All I was ever taught to say was, ‘I’m a poor, miserable sinner.’ I am not poor, I am not miserable and I am not a sinner. That is a lie from the pit of hell. That is what I was and if I still am then Jesus died in vain. Amen?”

1John 1:8 if we say that we have not sinned, we are fooling ourselves, and the truth isn’t in our hearts.

1John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us.  

Mrs. Meyer has stopped sinning? Is she claiming perfection? Is she calling God a liar? It appears that she is. This is heresy. Her statement above is a direct contradiction to what is in God’s Word. I’m not trying to “hang” her here, not at all. What I will do is point out this blasphemous error and warn others from falling into a snare set by Satan through a heretical teacher. It’s obvious that the Word of God has not penetrated Mrs. Meyer’s heart due to her statements above.

Romans 3:10 as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one;

The Bible doesn’t say that Joyce Meyer is righteous. She does. In fact, Paul tells us that no one is righteous before or after we have accepted Jesus Christ as our personal Savior. Paul further states that;

Romans 3:23 since all have sinned and continue to fall short of God’s glory.

That means all of us. Not all of us except Joyce Meyer. She is extremely wealthy. I’m sure she’s not miserable but the Bible says that all of us are sinners including Joyce Meyer. She claims that she is not. Mrs. Meyer denies ever teaching this but she did. Removal of a tape from a catalog and then denying it ever existed isn’t repentance.

John further relates to us what we are to do when we do sin;

1John 1:9 If we make it our habit to confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us those sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Why would John, inspired by the Holy Spirit, tell us to make a habit of confessing our

sins if we aren’t sinners anymore? A habit isn’t a one time deal but something we do

daily. This teaching doesn’t make sense.

Below is another of Joyce Meyers Teachings:There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth I am presenting. You cannot go to heaven unless you believe with all your heart that Jesus took your place in hell” (p. 37). [The Most Important Decision You Will Ever Make Booklet, 1991 edition 

1Peter 3:18 Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that He might bring us to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;  

Peter says that Christ suffered for our sins once, which leads us to believe that His suffering for our sins was done on the cross. Word of Faith teachers continually “plead the blood” yet deny the blood by teaching that Jesus atoning work was done in hell. Flesh bleeds. Spirits do not bleed and Peter is telling us that Christ’s spirit went to hell. Look what Peter says that Jesus did while in hell;

1Peter 3:19 in which also He went and preached unto the spirits in prison,  1Peter 3:20 that aforetime were disobedient, when the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight soulswere saved through water:  

He preached to the spirits in Hades. That’s all He did there. He went to share the Good

News with His lost sheep. Now let’s allow John to tell us where the atonement actually took place.

John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, He said, It is finished: and He bowed his head, and gave up his spirit.  

Why would Jesus say “It was finished” if He had more work to do? His work was         finished on the cross. The born again in hell doctrine promoted by Meyer and others in the Word of Faith movement is blasphemy.

Let’s look at one last teaching that Joyce Meyer has taught to millions of her followers worldwide. 

“I am going to tell you something right now. I no more believe that my God is going to let me stand around and believe a lie than I believe that I am going to turn green in the next two minutes. God is my source and He loves me and I am after God with my whole heart. And if I am accidentally, or any other way, getting into error, I am going to have a bell go off on the inside of me that is going to be so loud that not only am I going to hear it, but so is everybody else.”

2Corinthians 11:4  For if someone comes along and preaches another Jesus than the one we preached, or should you receive a different spirit from the one you received or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you are all too willing to listen. 

Unfortunately, Joyce Meyer seems to believe a lie. She’s appears to have bought into Satan’s lies completely. She teaches that she isn’t a sinner. She teaches that Jesus took our place in hell. This is troubling as 10’s of millions of people watch her television show daily, buy her books and attend her conferences believing every word she tells them.

Joyce Meyer is extremely wealthy from preaching “another Jesus”. The bells are ringing loudly and apparently millions of people can’t hear them, including Mrs. Meyer. Let’s pray for the souls of those she’s led astray.

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23 thoughts on “Joyce Meyer”

  1. Read 1John3:4-9 and then ask yourself am I a sinner? I think you need to study some more before making these accusations.

    Phillyflash:Ed,

    Thank for the verses and yes, I need to study more but then brother, so should all of us.

    Ed, these aren’t accusations. I used her statements that she has publicly made.

    Joyce Meyer claims she is not a sinner and that she is righteous. Would you agree that only God is righteous and not a sinner? Well, Joyce Meyer claims to be righteous and not a sinner which puts her on par with God.

    Joyce Meyer Ministries do a LOT of good work with the poor. However, claiming to be righteous is claiming to be like God and she isn’t God, which was the whole point of that section of the article. So, I guess we just disagree. More importantly, God’s Word disagrees with her statements and her beliefs.

    Thanks Ed for the comments and the Scripture verses. I appreciate them and you and I hope you keep coming back to this site.

    God bless you brother!

    Phil

  2. Did you read 1john 3:4-9? Could you please tell me what that means if it doesn’t mean that we are righteous. Until man is righteous,Satan reigns over him(Rom 5:17). God is not pleased when we disregard any of the great redemptive work of Jesus Christ.2Cor5:17-21 Jesus became sin for us,as a result we can stand in the presence of God free of sin.God no longer looks at us as sinners. He sees us as the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus.God, through Jesus Christ, has redeemed us.We must choose to accept what he has done Rom 10:6-10. I pray that this helps you.

    Hi Ed,

    This is what i was hoping for with this blog. We get the opportunity to share ideas and be blessed by total strangers. I did read the passage several times before I wrote my article, and then after you generously supplied this wonderful passage of Scripture. Thank you for being civil and courteous with your comments. I see the fruits of your Christian walk through your words. Here are my thoughts on the scripture you provided.

    Take a look at Matthew 7:16-23. My whole point in the article, or the point I was trying to relate, was that Joyce Meyer teaches heresy. She teaches another Jesus and not the One that is in my Bible. She wants to convince others that she isn’t a sinner and that she is righteous to convince people her teachings are biblical. The verses you gave tell us that we are righteous (but only in a limited way) if we keep the laws of God. The whole point of the article was that she doesn’t keep the law of God based on her heretical teachings which is hardly righteous.

    Ed, when we sin, who reigns over us? Is it God or Satan?

    Ed, Joyce Meyer teaches that Jesus was the first “born again man”. Wasn’t the cross enough? Her teaching disregards the great redemptive work of Christ.

    Ed, I have chosen to accept what Christ did for me. However, based on her fruits, I refuse to accept what Joyce Meyer teaches. So, i guess we will agree to disagree.

    Thanks again for the teaching and I hope I’ve explained my position a little bit better.

    Phil

  3. Can you explain to me what is limited righteousness(1John3:7-9) and also the fruits that are so off that you do not accept what she teaches. What I mean is what first hand information do you have that she is off , not hear say or something that was gotten from another site. Forgive me for coming off strong but there are people on the web that lack understanding and truth who are spreading alot of rumors and lies about things they know nothing about.1John4:1 says believe not every spirit but try the spirit .I am not a follower of Joyce Meyer but of Christ,It just seems like a blatant attack without any evidence only hear say. Phil when it comes to righteousness there is no grey area ,it is easy to say you will chose to disagree but in this situation there is a right and a wrong it is whether we choose to accept it.

    Ed,

    I’ve presented a compelling case based on Joyce Meyers published statements that she has made over the years. I don’t expect everyone to agree with me and I would hope that you or anyone else would test what I’ve stated by the Word of God.

    1John 3:7 tells us that he that doeth righteousness is righteous. That means that it is limited based upon our following God’s laws. If we don’t follow God’s laws we are sinning (3:8) and are following the devil. Following the devil isn’t righteous in God’s eyes. That’s what I meant by limited. I explained what God requires of us when we sin in my article.

    Ed, how on Earth can you say that God considers Joyce Meyer “righteous” when she teaches that His Sons crucifixion on the cross wasn’t enough to atone for the sins of mankind? She continually “pleads the blood” yet then tries to convince her followers that He suffered in hell for our sins because the blood wasn’t enough. Where does it say in the Bible that Jesus “suffered” in hell? I hardly consider this type of teaching “righteous” and I explained this in my article.

    My study of Joyce Meyer Ministries has been very thorough. What I have presented is a sample of what I could have written. I have read her works listened to her tapes and watched her television show for quite a while now and based on that experience and what the Word tells me, I believe Joyce Meyer to be a false teacher who associates with and promotes false Word of Faith teachers and their false doctrines.

    God Bless You Ed!

    Phil

  4. Seems like what I posted mysteriously disappeared so I’ll post it again.Your understanding of righteousness to be blatant with you is off. Have you ever been taught how to rightly divide the word of God? Because what I have read doesn’t even line up with scripture. If you are going to put things out here with your name on it at least get it right.Stop taking scipture out of context to try make your point.It is not about you being right it is about people knowing the truth, not somebodys twisted version of the truth.Do you attend church anywhere regular, where the word of God is taught so you can learn these things.What are the doctrinal issues that she and others have transgressed.Do you have any transcripts or tapes of this so I and others may judge for ourselves and not by someone elses opinion.Do you have axe to grind with the word of faith folks or are you just offended……hmmmmm because I don’t see you going after the baptist, methodist,catholic,presbyterian,sevenday adventist,ame,cogic,assemblies of god, and so on and so on. Is this your private little war with them or do you get some kind of joy out of it.Are all word of faith ministers wrong?And shouldn’t we all live by and speak the word of faith?

    Ed,

    Thank you for your comments. Your attacks against me are noted. Why do you feel the need to attack me? You disagree with the article. OK. You disagree with how I interpret Scripture. Understood. So why do you stick around making accusations?

    Have I ever not responded to your comments in a timely manner Ed? No. I haven’t. I live in Greece Ed. There’s a 7-10 hour time difference depending on where in the states you reside. Right now it’s about 5pm my time. I finished work last night at 11pm my time then returned to work at 7am my time. Your impatience and subtle accusations lead me to believe you may have an agenda Ed.

    We disagree on Righteousness in regards to ministers who teach heresy. You believe they are righteous-I don’t. You want me to say that Joyce Meyer is righteous-I won’t. I will ask you again; Do you feel that someone can claim to be righteous and teach heresy?

    Tell our fellow Christian brothers and sisters in Africa that they can “speak” by “faith” their poverty and sickness away like your heroes within the WoF erroneously teaches their followers to do. They’ll love you for that Ed!

    Read the article again. It states where I got my information from. I have these in my possession Ed and if you do a Google search I’m sure you can find them for yourself.

    Take a look at http://www.doctrinetalk.com. There is a 17 minute or so CD that pretty much backs up what I say in regards to Mrs. Meyer in her own words. This was posted after my article. Somehow I don’t think even that will convince you.

    I receive no joy other then knowing that I’m doing what God has called me to do. No axe to grind here Ed. Do you think it’s easy to do this type of ministry? Do you think I like to be attacked by people like you? This site is less then 2 weeks old. How could you possibly know what I plan on doing in the future with this blog? Your assumptions based on ignorance astound me.

    Ed, the only war going on here is the one you seem so interested in waging. If you don’t like what I’ve written, why are you still desperately posting away?

    If the word of faith minister teaches tithing, or sowing a seed to meet a need, or that the cross wasn’t enough, or that we are “little gods” then yes I would believe that they are wrong. Tell me Ed, who do you know in the WoF movement who doesn’t teach these things and I will promote them here on this site.

    Now I will “speak” by “faith” that if you continue to make these types of accusatory posts, I will discover how to delete them from existence!

    God Bless You Ed!

    Phil

  5. Hi Phil,

    I see the comments Ed left were similar to the accusations he put on my site. I wish he would elaborate with what he disagrees with a little more, but I guess we all hae time constraints.

    Keep up the good work!

  6. Phil it is funny how you accuse people but as soon as the light is shown on you and you’re misquoting of scripture you send threats of deleting the posts. Well you have to do what you have to do.Also why would you tell me to go to another blog of someone who just like you doesn’t no how to rightly divide the word. If you are serious about wisdom and understanding lets go over scripture line upon line precept upon precept. Lets start with tithing.You tell me why it is so wrong with scripture of course and not your opinion or someone elses idealogy. I am only interested in what the word of God says. P.S. Yes I did leave your buddy craig some of the same message because you both are doing the same thing.

  7. ed,

    the only person you’ve shown the light on is yourself.

    why use different names for different sites on your posts?

    when you answer the questions I’ve posed to you then we will see what we will see in matters of answering your questions.

  8. Ed,

    I’ve answered all of your questions. You just didn’t like my answers. You came here to attack and accuse. This is not acceptable.

    Good-Bye Ed or PJ or whoever you are

  9. Phil read this I hope it will help you as it did me.Forgive me for not being patient and also gentle.

    2Ti 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

    2Ti 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all [men], apt to teach, patient,

    2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

    2Ti 2:26 And [that] they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

    2Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

    2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

    2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

    2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

    2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

    2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

    2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

    2Ti 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

    It seems this conversation is going no were for I believe strongly in rightly dividing the word and will not move and you to on your points, so I will do the right thing and leave at this point.

  10. I have the tape that Joyce states that she is no longer a sinner….maybe you should continure onto the rest of what was said.

    While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Yes, I am not longer a sinner, however, I still sin and need to repent everyday. The ref to sinner means unsaved. I am saved but I am human and still sin and so does Joyce and she openly admits that she has to repent of her sin everday.

  11. I think your distorting the words, changing them up to mean something that they aren’t. Where’s the love & the positivity of the good works of Joyce, Nassir, and other people you’ve slammed?Walk in love & loving God is the main thing.

  12. Priscilla,

    In the next few days, I will place another post up with an audio that will clearly show you what I was talking about in her own words. If that won’t convince you, nothing will that this woman is a heretic and a false teacher.

  13. Joyce did not say that she does not sin; she said that she is not a sinner – sin is no longer her nature. Before accepting Christ as Lord and Savior we were seed of Adam (we be born in sin and shaped in inquity). When we were born again we became seed of Abraham – our nature was changed, we were adopted into the family of God, and we became the righteousness of God through Christ Jesus. Jesus shed his blood as a final sin offering for mankind which changed our nature. If I sin after accepting Christ, I am doing so because I choose to, not because it’s my nature. What was the purpose of accepting Christ if we were not changed; we must continue to crucify our flesh and renew our minds by the Word.
    I agree with Joyce’s statement.
    In Love!

  14. I was familiar with Joyce Meyer but didn’t really know much about her teachings until recently. When our church elders found out that one of the church small groups was studying one of her books they were asked to stop teaching from her books because of the false teachings. I began to read about Joyce Meyer and her teachings and I was amazed that she could acquire such a large following with the warped doctrine that she was teaching. You take one charismatic woman with a little bit of Bible knowledge and turn her loose and you see here what she turned into. I believe she is sincere. But, being sincere, doesn’t make her right. She depends on what she feels to be right, rather than what God’s Word says. She is dangerous and her cultic, heretic movement is making it’s way into churches. It is imperative that Christian church elders guard Biblical truths and be watchful over what is being taught to their people.

    Phil: Paulette, welcome to Theology Today!

    You hit the nail on the head. Sincere but sincerely wrong describes Joyce Meyer perfectly. My question is “What is she sincere about”?

  15. I don’t know to what extent you’ve listened to Joyce and heard the entire context of what she’s saying. When we accept Christ, our title and identity are changed. By title we are not sinners anymore, even though we sin. We are now Saints of God. Example: when Paul wrote to the churches at Ephesus, Philippi and Galatia, he did NOT write to the “Sinners at Ephesus”. He wrote to the Saints! because Jesus changed their identity. Same is true for us…We belong to Him now, and that is who we are; it’s not of ourselves, but because ONLY of Him and His righteousness. This is what Joyce Meyer is talking about. She does not teach heresy. Please listen to all of her teaching and not just part. God’s blessings to all of you.

    Phil: Hi Al….Welcome to Theology Today.

    What about her teachings on Jesus suffering in hell for our sins Al? How about her claiming “infallibility” with all the “bells going off in her head” if what she is teaching is wrong?

  16. Please understand that my comments are not meant to be hateful. But this audio clip of Joyce is so old! I’ve heard and read most of her material and find none of what you’re saying. It could be that she’s matured. Don’t we all need a dose of that? Let the past stuff go.

    Another question for all the critics to think about:
    How many people are you feeding? How many medical facilities have you constructed overseas? Where are your financial statements posted on the web?

    After 35 years in ministry, I’ve discoverd that anyone who’s doing a great work (helping others and pointing them to the Lord Jesus) are going to have tomatos thrown at them. The Lord Himself did not please everyone while He was here. Blessings to all. My final post.

  17. One thing we should remember is that our bodies have not yet been redeemed. ROMANS 8:22&23. Even Paul himself said he would struggle. Find himself doing what he wishes not to, but he wants to, find himself not doing. If we were not, and still aren’t perfect in keeping the law, because if we were, Christ would not have died on the cross. The bible says our righteousness is like filthy rags before Him. Christ came as the perfect sacrifice indeed, and took our place on the cross and paid the price our salvation. Salvation we work out with fear and trembling. Meaning it is not just a word of mouth proclamation, “am born again”, but a daily struggle to stay on the right track. We are saved by grace and not by works but this does not mean we should keep sinning, says Paul. So we do our best in obedience to the voice of the Holy Spirit, that we might resist the devil and make the right choices every moment. But on case we fall, because we do, there is always another chance- the prodigal son returns. even David himself committed adultery but at the end of the day God still calls him a man after His own heart. NB. God does not change. It is the getting up again after falling that makes the saint. We are still sinners working our way to God with God’s help! Surely no one can stand before God and say he never sinned since he gave his life to Christ. Then what would be the purpose of the phrase, “forgive us our sins as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil” in the Lord’s prayer? As for 1John 3, it is to teach us how we ought to be as children of God. Does not necessarily mean we fulfill this requirement 24-7-365. Everyone ought to check themselves and self proclamation is not at all one of God’s desired characters in man. ref:the parable of the pharisee and the tax collector praying. Hope this helps. God bless

  18. b.s.

    Joyce Meyer teaches that Jesus lost His Diety and suffered in Hell. That totally wipes out the “cross”. A false teacher will always attack the cross or Jesus’ Diety. Meyers does both.

    You mentioned that we are “sinners working our way to God”. Just what do you think you can add to your salvation that hasn’t already been done? Just what works of yours can top that?

  19. Hi.
    Ed, you are wrong. Where? Well, first you started off saying that Pastor Joyce doesn’t preach the Word of God. Why? Because everything she says falls outside of what you believe is God’s word, or because of the ‘righteous’ comment? Would it not have been easier for you to say she’s erred in that section, rather than cutting her off completely? I’d say more christianly too.

    In any case, she was correct. You gain nothing from throwing scriptures back each time some one quotes a scripture. Throw a scripture back at this one
    2 Cor 5:21
    21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
    NKJV
    Or this
    Rev 22:11
    11 He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.”
    NKJV

    Romans 4 says that before Christ came, the law declared that there was none righteous, no not one, so that if any one wants salvation, he has to come to Christ. He cannot be righteous outside Christ.

    But through the substitutory work of Christ, we have been made the righteousness of God. Romans 4 concludes that by our works we cannot claim to be righteous, but only through our faith in what Jesus did for us.

    What is faith? The belief in something even though we don’t see it. God says we are righteous, and we don’t see how that could be true, with each day we are fighting, entangled by sinful thoughts and sinful acts against God, and against our neighbours, but the blood of Christ washes us, and God says we are, so we affirm it, believing it, even when it doesn’t seem apparent.

    But we know that we are like Christ in our spirits (1 John 3:1) and when He shall appear it would be evident to all what we really are because as He is, so are we today, right now, in this world.

    God says by His stripes we were healed in 1 Peter 2:24, past tense.

    And so through the beatings He received, we were healed! Even though we see sickness attack our bodies, we claim our healing by faith…. the belief that God wasn’t lying.

    1 John says if any man says he has no sin… that is he doesn’t require help from God, he is a liar. That’s what that scripture was saying.

    I love you brother. I was quarrelled with a christian brother when I got saved 10years ago on this very issue. He said we were righteous and holy, I said no one is holy but God.

    Until after I drove him out of my house, I turned to the Holy Spirit and asked if I was right, or if he was right (see I didn’t let pride hold me from admitting wrong)

    That day he showed me 3 scriptures, 2 of which I can only recall right now… Col 3:10, and Eph 3:24

    The Lord grants you understanding

    Timothy

    Long and short is this:

  20. I am a Pentecostal believer and am very troubled by the false doctrines of people like Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland and Joyce Meyers and others. All Christians have a sin nature. We will have it until we are changed. Why she is teaching she is not a sinner is beyond me. I don’t think Christians should go around bragging on being a sinner but we she humbly realize we are now servants of Christ and we are His Saints. There is a big difference from the sinner who has never been saved and the Christian who has and in whom Christ dwells through the Holy Spirit. I firmly believe Joyce Meyer is wrong.

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